NCSG Election Clarifications

[Schaefer, Brett]

This is getting ridiculous. Stop cluttering up our inboxes. Resolve your differences privately or take whatever action you deem appropriate. For what it’s worth, I suggest you sleep on it and reconsider when you’ve cooled down.  No, I don’t expect you follow this advice, nor do I care as long as you stop sending emails to the general list.


BrettSchaefer
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From: NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: Re: NCSG Election Clarifications

Thanks for pointing this out. This is all about he-say-She Says - Legally speaking, this is a fit case for dissolution of the electoral process. If at all due - Legal - processes were - then we wouldn’t be here - would be ! For a lot of stuff. I have also pointed some.

But that not for me to say as it should be adopted democratically and up for review at the behest of a call but One or Any members. Nothing is Sacrosanct. Cannot be. Especially law.
As I have said before, the by-laws of any public forum, especially like this which is operating in a Muti-country environment, are only possessing limited powers, and have to be backed by legal inputs.

My two pennies.

Regards,
-VA


On Jun 3, 2020, at 1:20 AM, Aaron Meyer <aaron.eitan.meyer at gmail.com<mailto:aaron.eitan.meyer at gmail.com>> wrote:

Having been a member for quite some time, largely quiet, I have to say I don't understand how there is any issue regarding the charter. Section 3.1 is clear and unambiguous and must be strictly construed.

Aaron Eitan Meyer

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On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 3:40 PM Vaibhav Aggarwal <va at bladebrains.com<mailto:va at bladebrains.com>> wrote:
I did not start this - My discourse was perfect. I showed dissent & that should be respected - How many people are active to the list 5-10 - what’s the membership - now shud v consider that either everyone else is in agreement of what is happening or are dissenting - by staying quite.

My voice will not be muzzled Amr. I chose public policy intervention as one of my specialities, because I want to make a difference, & over the years, without having a personal objective & motive, I am able to show dissent. Not many do.

I will take it to the helm if there is not public apology tendered. I have the right to self Righteousness. He was wrong - and it is the responsibility of the Chair too !! Or what’s the point ?

My written discourse is absolutely well worded. But if anyone decides to get personal - why will I stop - I will put my foot down and warn.

Disadvantages of being in public life Amr.
We all have to watch our conduct, be mature about it & stick to the agenda - this ain’t the school for teaching or learning. Let’s just do policy, exchange views, grow & help grow & that’s it.

There are ways to respond to someone’s comment - ways to tackle it - and the Muller threatens me for ejecting. How would I care - But he could mishandle - get personal - clearly disrespect - thinks he will get away - is it even sensible to say or think that ?

Thanks Amr - but your would have noticed - I did point out that I am speaking - honestly because I believed that this group will respect ✊ dissent.

Let’s see !

Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.

> On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:52 AM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja<mailto:aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja>> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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>> On Jun 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO <va at BLADEBRAINS.COM<mailto:va at BLADEBRAINS.COM>> wrote:
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> [SNIP]
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>> I will not just report you to the GIT in the USA but to ICANN also,
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> Resolving disputes via creating problems in members’ place of employment seems to be a growing trend in the NCSG. This is disappointing, and not only of our members, but also of the NCSG’s leadership, which doesn’t do nearly enough to discourage this type of vindictive conduct.
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> Vaibhav…, do you honestly believe that settling a dispute with a colleague in this space by threatening to make problems for him in his place of employment is fair or reasonable? Is this something you would encourage other members to do as well, whenever a dispute between any two of us may occur?
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> I ask that you consider my question, Vaibhav, and think about the potential consequences of this becoming a common-place occurrence within the NCSG. I ask you this because, sadly, you are not the first one of our members to go down this path.
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> Don’t you think that a dispute between you and another member may be resolved by other means, instead?
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> Thanks.
>
> Amr

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