A Proposal to Merge NCSG, NCUC and NPOC for More Efficiency in ICANN=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99s_?=DNS Work

[Olivier Kouami]

Thanks Raoul.

Le ven. 24 juil. 2020 à 10:27, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> a écrit :

> 1)    Current members low engagement in policy work
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>> This would not be helped by a merger, but it would not be harmed, either.
>> It’s a different issue
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> Having three ECs and ICANN supporting most of those members to live
> meetings is a major difference in my view. Almost all EC members should be
> concerned with policy anyway, so eradicating 2/3 of our travel slots would
> likely result in even less policy activity.
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>> 2)    Administrative overload for Maryam and the members of the various
>> ECs
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>> This most definitely WOULD be helped by a merger. One of the reasons
>> there is too much administrative work is that we have duplicative,
>> overlapping structures. And they confuse members or potential members
>> constantly.
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> Sure, the administrative work is probably doubled with the triumvirate as
> opposed to a singular structure. However, Maryam gets paid by ICANN to
> maintain most of the administrative work (just like is done with other SGs)
> so it's not really eating _that_ much into the efficiency of volunteers.
> What WOULD help with the confusion, is to embrace the logical division that
> is set in the names of our constituencies. Delegate NGO issues to NPOC and
> individual user issues to NCUC. Very easy to explain to all newcomers. I
> also prefer having two cooperative non-commercial echo chambers instead of
> one. I'm not sure if ALAC can even be counted in ICANN for defending
> non-commercial interests, so we're kind of alone with this mission here. I
> think our structure isn't really THAT heavy, considering it's really us
> that defend human rights of billions of people. And ICANN supports it more
> than we, the volunteers do. I think we need all the resources we can get to
> get this job (with gradually increasing difficulty) done, without actually
> paying someone to do it.
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>
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>> 3)    Need to grow the membership base (new members)
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>> Have you every tried explaining to new members the difference between
>> NPOC and NCUC and why it matters? I have been doing that for 10 years, and
>> I can tell you it doesn’t help recruit new members. It is serious friction.
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> Like I said above, let's finally agree to allocate NGOs to NPOC and
> individual user issues to NCUC. It's very easily explained and understood.
>
IMHO, this is another solution to address the issue. The difference between
NCUC and NPOC.

Warm regards
Olévié

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>> 4) To develop and maintain a strong voice in ICANN for our stakeholders
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>> A more unified voice would be stronger.
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> This would be correct, if there had been even mild disagreements about
> policy between the two constituencies in the last few years. I don't
> remember one.
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> -Raoul
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> On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 18:26, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
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>> Jacky:
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>> 1)    Current members low engagement in policy work
>>
>>
>>
>> This would not be helped by a merger, but it would not be harmed, either.
>> It’s a different issue
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)    Administrative overload for Maryam and the members of the various
>> ECs
>>
>>
>>
>> This most definitely WOULD be helped by a merger. One of the reasons
>> there is too much administrative work is that we have duplicative,
>> overlapping structures. And they confuse members or potential members
>> constantly.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3)    Need to grow the membership base (new members)
>>
>>
>>
>> Have you every tried explaining to new members the difference between
>> NPOC and NCUC and why it matters? I have been doing that for 10 years, and
>> I can tell you it doesn’t help recruit new members. It is serious friction.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) To develop and maintain a strong voice in ICANN for our stakeholders
>>
>>
>>
>> A more unified voice would be stronger.
>>
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>> It's far too early to determine that a merger is the solution,
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>> Disagree, it has been obvious that a merger is the solution for about 5
>> years. It’s way late to come to this recognition, though I am delighted
>> that Sam and other NPOC members have.
>>
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