Private Calls for NCSG Leadership Committees

[Remmy Nweke]

Dear all
The demand is on openness and EC does not have a bank of knowledge of
everything and at the same time, keeping membership abreast with such a
call helps to build the capacity of the upcoming EC to know how things work.
That information such as this, especially if not an exclusive to EC should
be encouraged for open session.

So, there is nothing wrong in pointing this out to EC.
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this demand for transparency is somewhat overblown here, Amr. The
> board has gotten together with NCSG EC and its chairs like with all the
> other SGs. What's the big deal? This has been going on for many years
> already and business as usual as far as I can see.
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 06:58, Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 @Amr.
>>
>> Warm regards
>> Olévié
>>
>> Le jeu. 30 juil. 2020 à 12:40, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> From looking at the NCSG EC Archive (
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-ec/2020-July/date.html), I see
>>> that there are a couple of calls that are taking place without any notice
>>> or invitation being sent to our general membership. I, for one, would have
>>> liked to attend both calls, and don’t understand why they’ve been kept from
>>> us regular members by the NCSG EC.
>>>
>>> The first call, held yesterday (29 July) was apparently with Matthew
>>> Shears, and possibly other ICANN Board members too. I recall holding a call
>>> with Matthew when he was up for reelection by the NCPH (we were invited to
>>> that call, thankfully), and recall specifically asking him to hold periodic
>>> calls with our members as a means to keep in touch, and facilitate
>>> communication with the NCSG. Matthew seems to be doing his part, but we’ve
>>> been excluded form participation by our own SG’s leadership (a presumption
>>> on my part, so please correct me if I’m mistaken).
>>>
>>> Right now would have been a really good time to engage with our Board
>>> members, especially considering the EPDP finalizing its Phase 2 final
>>> report, and the Board having a seemingly strong opinion on one of the
>>> recommendations, which conflicts with our own. There may be other topics of
>>> importance to our members, like the recent ATRT recommendations, and what
>>> the Board’s consideration of those will mean to the ICANN MSM.
>>>
>>> Earlier today, it seems like a second call was also held (or was at
>>> least scheduled to be) with colleagues in the CSG regarding the election of
>>> a new GNSO Chair. Again…, this is an issue of great importance to NCSG
>>> members, particularly those who are engaged in policy development in the
>>> GNSO. Why were we not invited to attend this call as well? I hope that the
>>> NCSG’s new incoming Council representatives were at least invited to this
>>> second call, since they will be expected to work with the new GNSO Chair,
>>> and will also be expected to vote in this election.
>>>
>>> I find this kind of disregard to our members’ participation to be
>>> incredibly counter-productive to the work we do, and don’t really care for
>>> explanations or excuses. I’d just really like to see it stop.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>
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