Domain Renewals

[bswitaba at YAHOO.CO.UK]

 Hi listers,

It's my hope that you're all safe and sound wherever you are.

This is a great conversation indeed.

Glad to share that ZACR, the administrator of South Africa's .za domain name has suspended deletions of domains not in good standing with annual renewal fees. 
Hats off to the ZACR CEO Mr. Lucky Masilela for this gesture and kind consideration
Link to the news: https://www.itweb.co.za/content/nWJad7be1dyvbjO1?utm_source=dailyEnews_leadLink&utm_medium=email

Let's hope other registries can emulate this move by granting registrants an additional grace period till things "get better".

Stay safe 

Bonface Witaba

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It does NOT matter how SLOWLY you GO so long as you do Not STOP. --Confucious (Chinese Philosopher and Reformer)

     On Wednesday, 8 April 2020, 11:16:26 GMT+3, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:  
 
 Hi,
As Bruna and Tomslin suggest, I believe opening dialogue with the Registries and Registrars is more sensible than trying to get ICANN to do something about this.
Thanks.
Amr


On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:07 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I like the idea of speaking to Registrar's/Registries, but at the same time worried about time. If there was anything they can do, it should be done now. I therefore wonder if an open statement like the one Vaibhav suggests (addressed to Registrar's/Registries rather than to ICANN) could be a good starting point urging them to do what they can to help now. We could then follow that up with further conversations. 

Cheers,
Tomslin
    
On Wed., 8 Apr. 2020, 07:32 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all! 
Thanks for the suggestion, Vaibhav! 

As mentioned, there are some strategies/national Legislations being discussed on the grounds of prohibitions to service termination or fees readjustments in terms of connections services and mostly based on the fact that the Internet is a key element for having access to Information - especially during the pandemics- and/or a basic human right, and having the Tampere Convention as a guide too.  Here in Brazil we have a few legislative initiatives around this issue in terms of service termination, fees readjustment and one that even wants to settle what would be a minimum universal data franchise at 2gb. 

In terms of domain renewals, I have not heard anything yet. But I agree that ICANN has very little to do with it, and that the decision of a postponement of the fees or even contract termination relies entirely on the policies adopted independently adopted by each Registry and Registrar for itself - as @Amr Elsadr mentions. So this would have to be a separate conversation with Registries and Registrars. 
At the same time, I think Peter brings a fair point when he mentions that some terminations would indirectly result in information no longer being available online. Therefore, the only possible approach here would be to start a conversation with Registries and Registrars to hear from them what is a feasible solution and how adopting anything on the lines of what you propose would affect the different sizes of companies on this field. But I would love to hear what others on the SG think about this. 
best, B
Le mar. 7 avr. 2020 à 18:02, Peter Micek <petermicek at gmail.com> a écrit :

Thanks for getting this idea going. I wholly support calling on the industry to take mitigation measures that acknowledge the financial pressures and other burdens on registrants at this time.  

Not every registrar has to take the same action. Look at this great spreadsheet that Steve Song started compiling showing actions by regulators, telcos and ISPs, for example, to see the breadth of actions available to service providers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DsJ6YS8hBIpD9CQqVcrASCgGsFo6syDIakZCQohABGQ/edit#gid=0

It is entirely reasonable to ask similar of this industry, and I would argue that providing discounts, postponing fees, or providing in kind services for free at times of crisis aligns with the private sector's duty to respect human rights under the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights. Specifically, it would mitigate the risk of people losing access to public health information and data that is crucial to understand the threat they face to health and wellbeing. Domain registrars can avoid causing or contributing to this lack of access by extending services and delaying costs.

Best,Peter

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 4:38 PM Vaibhav Aggarwal <va at bladebrains.com> wrote:

Thanks Kristy. I appreciate it. 
Amr my few points : 
1. There is definitive news in the market where renewals by digital businesses r being curtailed due to their business cycles taking a hit. The data at this juncture may b suppressed or undeclared for obvious reasons;
2. ICANN may not have the power to interfere in the business of individual registries, but it’s obligation is surely not towards them but the consumers. So if NCSG mounts enough pressure, even a recommendation in that direction would have achieved a significant push for the “Non-Commercial” SG, making a statement in the larger interest of the society !
3. There Is a responsibility for every group that should be there to support digital businesses. Zoom for instance, from 5 million users, have gone to 100mil + users over just in 7 days. Please appreciate that the subscriptions that zoom has, are yearly or some are long term.  So we are asking for a couple of months !!
4. As far as the technical aspect is concerned, it is very simple. I don’t suppose as the NCSG we should Not worry about anyone’s business & their revenue cycles. 
5. Legally, My suggestion is iron clad. The force Majure Clause in all international agreements including those of the local contracting parties will take care of the extension of the domain renewal dates. 100% enforceable by law ! 
Just a few points to ponder. We can discuss more. 
Regards -VA

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On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:31 AM, Kristi Hoffmaster <kristi.hoffmaster at gmail.com> wrote:



Kristi - first commment since joining.  I think that is very smart and makes sense. Great idea.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:46 PM Vaibhav Aggarwal <va at bladebrains.com> wrote:

Hello Team, 

I hope everyone is Well & taking good care in this tough global situation. 

I have a question - while the business globally is stand still, there are domain renewals that are coming up. Why should the domain renewals be not  given a grace of at least 2 months before they expire (for the months of April & May). 

Most of the Digital platforms which are there for listing, online businesses, are allowing extended listing complimentary in the interest of business. 

Just raising - if we agree, which makes complete sense, then we can draft a formal letter to the board & the registry group for taking this forward quickly. 

Regards 
-Vaibhav Aggarwal
Vaibhavaggarwal.com
Twitter : @TheVaibhavAg
FB : vaibhav.tiger

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