Domain Renewals

Tue Apr 7 18:07:07 EEST 2020

Hi all,

I like the idea of speaking to Registrar's/Registries, but at the same time
worried about time. If there was anything they can do, it should be done
now. I therefore wonder if an open statement like the one Vaibhav suggests
(addressed to Registrar's/Registries rather than to ICANN) could be a good
starting point urging them to do what they can to help now. We could then
follow that up with further conversations.

Cheers,
Tomslin

On Wed., 8 Apr. 2020, 07:32 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, Vaibhav!
>
> As mentioned, there are some strategies/national Legislations being
> discussed on the grounds of prohibitions to service termination or fees
> readjustments in terms of connections services and mostly based on the fact
> that the Internet is a key element for having access to Information -
> especially during the pandemics- and/or a basic human right, and having the Tampere
> Convention
> <https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Emergency-Telecommunications/Documents/Tampere_Convention/Tampere_convention.pdf>
> as a guide too.  Here in Brazil we have a few legislative initiatives
> around this issue in terms of service termination, fees readjustment and
> one that even wants to settle what would be a minimum universal data
> franchise at 2gb.
>
> In terms of domain renewals, I have not heard anything yet. But I agree
> that ICANN has very little to do with it, and that the decision of a
> postponement of the fees or even contract termination relies entirely on
> the policies adopted independently adopted by each Registry and Registrar
> for itself - as @Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at icannpolicy.ninja> mentions. So this
> would have to be a separate conversation with Registries and Registrars.
>
> At the same time, I think Peter brings a fair point when he mentions that
> some terminations would indirectly result in information no longer being
> available online. Therefore, the only possible approach here would be to
> start a conversation with Registries and Registrars to hear from them what
> is a feasible solution and how adopting anything on the lines of what you
> propose would affect the different sizes of companies on this field. But I
> would love to hear what others on the SG think about this.
>
> best,
> B
>
> Le mar. 7 avr. 2020 à 18:02, Peter Micek <petermicek at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Thanks for getting this idea going. I wholly support calling on the
>> industry to take mitigation measures that acknowledge the financial
>> pressures and other burdens on registrants at this time.
>>
>> Not every registrar has to take the same action. Look at this great
>> spreadsheet that Steve Song started compiling showing actions by
>> regulators, telcos and ISPs, for example, to see the breadth of actions
>> available to service providers:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DsJ6YS8hBIpD9CQqVcrASCgGsFo6syDIakZCQohABGQ/edit#gid=0
>>
>>
>> It is entirely reasonable to ask similar of this industry, and I would
>> argue that providing discounts, postponing fees, or providing in kind
>> services for free at times of crisis aligns with the private sector's duty
>> to respect human rights under the UN Guiding Principles on Business and
>> Human Rights. Specifically, it would mitigate the risk of people losing
>> access to public health information and data that is crucial to understand
>> the threat they face to health and wellbeing. Domain registrars can avoid
>> causing or contributing to this lack of access by extending services and
>> delaying costs.
>>
>> Best,
>> Peter
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 4:38 PM Vaibhav Aggarwal <va at bladebrains.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Kristy. I appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Amr my few points :
>>>
>>> 1. There is definitive news in the market where renewals by digital
>>> businesses r being curtailed due to their business cycles taking a hit. The
>>> data at this juncture may b suppressed or undeclared for obvious reasons;
>>>
>>> 2. ICANN may not have the power to interfere in the business of
>>> individual registries, but it’s obligation is surely not towards them but
>>> the consumers. So if NCSG mounts enough pressure, even a recommendation in
>>> that direction would have achieved a significant push for the
>>> “Non-Commercial” SG, making a statement in the larger interest of the
>>> society !
>>>
>>> 3. There Is a responsibility for every group that should be there to
>>> support digital businesses. Zoom for instance, from 5 million users, have
>>> gone to 100mil + users over just in 7 days. Please appreciate that the
>>> subscriptions that zoom has, are yearly or some are long term.  So we are
>>> asking for a couple of months !!
>>>
>>> 4. As far as the technical aspect is concerned, it is very simple. I
>>> don’t suppose as the NCSG we should Not worry about anyone’s business &
>>> their revenue cycles.
>>>
>>> 5. Legally, My suggestion is iron clad. The force Majure Clause in all
>>> international agreements including those of the local contracting parties
>>> will take care of the extension of the domain renewal dates. 100%
>>> enforceable by law !
>>>
>>> Just a few points to ponder. We can discuss more.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -VA
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
>>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2020, at 1:31 AM, Kristi Hoffmaster <
>>> kristi.hoffmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Kristi - first commment since joining.  I think that is very smart and
>>> makes sense. Great idea.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:46 PM Vaibhav Aggarwal <va at bladebrains.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>
>>>> I hope everyone is Well & taking good care in this tough global
>>>> situation.
>>>>
>>>> I have a question - while the business globally is stand still, there
>>>> are domain renewals that are coming up. Why should the domain renewals be
>>>> not  given a grace of at least 2 months before they expire (for the months
>>>> of April & May).
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Digital platforms which are there for listing, online
>>>> businesses, are allowing extended listing complimentary in the interest of
>>>> business.
>>>>
>>>> Just raising - if we agree, which makes complete sense, then we can
>>>> draft a formal letter to the board & the registry group for taking this
>>>> forward quickly.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> -Vaibhav Aggarwal
>>>> Vaibhavaggarwal.com
>>>> Twitter : @TheVaibhavAg
>>>> FB : vaibhav.tiger
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
>>>
>>>
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