Zoom is compromised

[dorothy g]

Thanks Joly,  we need a few extra rows to address security concerns
including secret backend permissions and access given to national security.
Great matrix. I will circulate.

best

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:49 AM Joly MacFie <jolynyc at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Diplo have put together such a matrix. I am sure they will appreciate any
> further input.
>
> https://www.diplomacy.edu/conference-tech-lab
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 7:43 AM dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Raoul,  All of the major meeting platforms have serious issues. I do
>> not believe zoom is more disastrous than the others. It was not obscure,
>> tens of millions of people all over the world have been using it for years
>> and this is not the first time issues have come up.  I agree that we should
>> watch carefully to see if they improve on the existing situation. Please
>> point me to independent reviews of Jitsi before I even think about it.  I
>> hope security researchers have also looked into it.  Perhaps we should look
>> at Houseparty?(Joke)
>>
>> The fact is that capitalist competition is driving some of the public
>> discussion (e.g.competition for software used in schools - general approach
>> get them to use it in school and they will never leave) so it is good if we
>> stick to objective facts.  Perhaps someone could create a matrix so we
>> compare the issues for the various platforms : IBM, Google Open
>> Meetings, ClickMeeting, Microsoft Corporation, Oracle Corporation, Citrix
>> Systems, Inc. and Cisco Systems.  Kindly note that when I started using
>> it zoom was distributed and free (I have never paid for zoom) and even
>> touted as open source even though most people would not agree with that
>> claim.   All the best and thanks in advance to the brilliant person who
>> will create the matrix.
>>
>> best
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:36 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce Schneier isn't exactly flattering them either:
>>>
>>> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/04/security_and_pr_1.html
>>>
>>> "That's what we know about Zoom's privacy and security so far. Expect
>>> more revelations in the weeks and months to come. The New York Attorney
>>> General is investigating
>>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/technology/new-york-attorney-general-zoom-privacy.html>
>>>  the company. Security researchers are combing through the software,
>>> looking for other things Zoom is doing and not telling anyone about. There
>>> are more stories waiting to be discovered.
>>>
>>> Zoom is a security and privacy disaster
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing>,
>>> but until now had managed to avoid public accountability because it was
>>> relatively obscure. Now that it's in the spotlight, it's all coming out.
>>> (Their 4/1 response to all of this is here
>>> <https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/04/01/a-message-to-our-users/>.)
>>> On 4/2, the company said
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-says-engineers-will-focus-on-security-and-safety-issues>
>>>  it would freeze all feature development and focus on security and
>>> privacy. Let's see if that's anything more than a PR move.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, you should either lock Zoom down as best you can, or --
>>> better yet -- abandon the platform altogether. Jitsi
>>> <https://jitsi.org/> is a distributed, free, and open-source
>>> alternative. Start your meeting here <https://meet.jit.si/>."
>>>
>>> -Raoul
>>>
>>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 21:07, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://theintercept.com/2020/04/03/zooms-encryption-is-not-suited-for-secrets-and-has-surprising-links-to-china-researchers-discover/
>>>>
>>>> " In addition to promptly fixing several security issues that were
>>>> reported, the company removed an “attendee attention tracker” feature, a
>>>> privacy nightmare which let meeting hosts track whether participants had
>>>> the Zoom window — or some other app’s window — in focus during a meeting.
>>>> It has also invested in new training materials to teach users about the
>>>> security features like setting passwords on meetings to avoid
>>>> Zoom-bombing
>>>> <https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/boston/news/press-releases/fbi-warns-of-teleconferencing-and-online-classroom-hijacking-during-covid-19-pandemic>,
>>>> the phenomenon where people disrupt unprotected Zoom meetings."
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad they're fixing the faults but some of these seem like it's
>>>> going to take quite a while. I'm no security expert, but some people that I
>>>> know have been very concerned over these revelations during the past week.
>>>> If there was no "bashing", they probably wouldn't have treated these issues
>>>> as priority.
>>>>
>>>> -Raoul
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 11:48, Carlos Afonso <
>>>> 0000103799ed46a9-dmarc-request at listserv.syr.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing
>>>>>
>>>>> frt rgds
>>>>>
>>>>> --c.a.
>>>>>
>>>>> =====================
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/03/2020 18:53, Raoul Plommer wrote:
>>>>> > FYI:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/27/trolls-zoom-privacy-settings-covid-19-lockdown
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos A. Afonso
>>>>> [emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente indicado em
>>>>> contrário]
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>>>>>
>>>>> Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dorothy Gordon
>>
>

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Dorothy Gordon
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