Zoom is compromised

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+1 all about threat model


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James Gannon
On 03/04/2020 10:07:33, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Michael,

I think it's just market forces doing it's thing; for zoom to have emerged among its pairs with its stocks also hitting high it's no surprise to see these series events.

The blog is well written and no surprises there either, no tool is perfect and while privacy is indeed important, the only ultimate solution is to stay offline.

Regards


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Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, 09:47 Michael J. Oghia, <mike.oghia at gmail.com [mailto:mike.oghia at gmail.com]> wrote:

Raoul, all;

Here is the official response from Zoom: https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/04/01/facts-around-zoom-encryption-for-meetings-webinars/ [https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/04/01/facts-around-zoom-encryption-for-meetings-webinars/]

What do you all make of it? At the moment, I don't intend to switch services and hope this can help strengthen Zoom's security and transparency processes going forward.

Stay safe and well,
-Michael



On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 5:14 AM Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com [mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com]> wrote:

Hello Dorothy and All, 

I'm a strong advocate of FOSS. However, using Linux does not always means it's full proof from attacks. 

That said, on an advisory note to ICANN ORG, SSAC used to be at the fore 
front of these things and we have not seen them flag this yet. Are they socially distancing themselves from Zoom? 

In another news, I had concerns about the report ICANN shared recently. It contained information that suggests ICANN had access to some attendees usage of the app. For sure I know hosts might know the programs I'm running at the instance of that meeting. 
If you read the privacy policy of zoom, it says :"we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products." 
That also calls for concerns. 

Speaking of Linux and FOSS. Perhaps, now is the time for FOSS enthusiasts to consider running all zoom meeting instances on a sandboxed VM or flatpak. 

Now that we are locked in and it does not seem we have much alternative. Here is a text and video guide for not so technically advanced users who do not know how to use sandboxed VM or flatpak to help us at the moment pending when zoom fixes it's flaws. 

https://youtu.be/JvTMA6d-LwU [https://youtu.be/JvTMA6d-LwU]


Or


https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2020/04/safety-and-security-while-video-conferencing/ [https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2020/04/safety-and-security-while-video-conferencing/]



Caleb Ogundele

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Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 9:46 AM dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com [mailto:dgdorothydg at gmail.com]> wrote:

Stick with Linux!

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 8:16 AM Joly MacFie <jolynyc at gmail.com [mailto:jolynyc at gmail.com]> wrote:

I agree with this commenter.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/unpatched-zoom-bug-lets-attackers-steal-windows-credentials-with-no-warning/?comments=1&post=38771635#comment-38771635 [https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/unpatched-zoom-bug-lets-attackers-steal-windows-credentials-with-no-warning/?comments=1&post=38771635#comment-38771635]


This is evidently a Microsoft Windows flaw.

It appears to be reported along the same lines as: the Tech Industry built insecure products, so let's train users to not click links.

Fix Windows so it doesn't send credentials to random SMB servers on the internet that bear no relation to the host's domain, and using an insecure protocol to boot.

Sheesh!  


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:35 PM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com [mailto:plommer at gmail.com]> wrote:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/unpatched-zoom-bug-lets-attackers-steal-windows-credentials-with-no-warning/ [https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/unpatched-zoom-bug-lets-attackers-steal-windows-credentials-with-no-warning/]


This discovery was made yesterday, so it's not an April fool's day prank..

-Raoul


On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 17:41, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com [mailto:remmyn at gmail.com]> wrote:

Very instructive. Thanks

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On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:03 AM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com [mailto:plommer at gmail.com]> wrote:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7e599/zoom-ios-app-sends-data-to-facebook-even-if-you-dont-have-a-facebook-account [https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7e599/zoom-ios-app-sends-data-to-facebook-even-if-you-dont-have-a-facebook-account] 

"The Zoom app notifies Facebook when the user opens the app, details on the user's device such as the model, the time zone and city they are connecting from, which phone carrier they are using, and a unique advertiser identifier [https://konsole.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115013349668-Identify-Android-AdIDs-Apple-IDFAs-and-Safari-IDs] created by the user's device which companies can use to target a user with advertisements [https://www.singular.net/mobile-tutorial-series-idfa-apple-identifier-advertisers/]"

-Raoul

  


On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 17:53, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com [mailto:plommer at gmail.com]> wrote:

FYI:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/27/trolls-zoom-privacy-settings-covid-19-lockdown [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/27/trolls-zoom-privacy-settings-covid-19-lockdown]  



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