[NCSG-PC] one on one with Goran

Tue Oct 1 16:48:08 EEST 2019

Hi Farzaneh

Thanks for bringing this up. Would you mind attaching the document in
question? I suppose it was posted on the PC list, and although it is public
(iirc) I think having it here would help other people give their comments.

Have a nice day,

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:13 PM Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Stephanie and all,
> I very much agree with raising the point about blog vs. public comments
> (thanks Farzaneh!). If not during this call, then next time or in Montreal
> somehow. This has been raised repeatedly and not only by us but seems to
> get rather little or no explanation.
> Cheers,
> Tanya
>
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 21:50, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
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>> These area excellent points Farzi, thanks.  ANswers in line:
>> On 2019-10-01 15:28, farzaneh badii wrote:
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>> Hi Stephanie
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>> Thanks a lot for putting this together. I cc'd the list.
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>> The first question is an actual comment. So he has invited some NCSG
>> members to dinner? Or is this the usual dinner invitation? And who would
>> you like to take with you to this dinner if you could take other members?
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>> He has asked me to find 10 random folks.  working on it, assume
>> councillors and constituency heads, but also want new people.  Thoughts
>> welcome.
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>> The second question, you are asking for a research librarian for the
>> community. This should have been in form of additional budget request and I
>> don't think anything can be done about it now. It's simply too late and the
>> CEO doesn't have a pot of money to give to noncommercials to have a
>> research librarian.  This again is not a question, it's an ask. I don't
>> think there would be any problem with if we suggest this as an ABR and
>> promote it and get support from other community groups (though I am dubious
>> about its effectiveness, since if we don't have many people active, why
>> would they want to use a research libraria?)
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>> This is a staffing nudge, not an ABR.  They need one, they are a grown up
>> org and they have info needs.
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>> The third question is again another ask for a budget, and this time its
>> reallocation.I see that in this request, you mention that CSG was
>> disinterested in meeting with "us". And then there was a concession? Would
>> be glad to know more about this if you could share the details. You are
>> asking for another day to be added to Cancun for NCSG to meet internally. I
>> don't have an issue with that but I am wondering if the CEO will even
>> entertain your request if you don't say the objectives of this one day
>> meeting with NCSG.
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>> Well our partners there do not think it is worth their time and effort to
>> meet with us in an intercessional. SO they proposed a one day addon.  I
>> think we need, as an SG, to start thinking about what our role is, how are
>> we structured, does it make sense today, etc.  Money is going to be sucked
>> into the deficit if we don't use it, I want it.
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>> I'd like to ask the CEO, and we have been asking this before, why some
>> important call for comments from the community are published on blogs and
>> not on public comment page? Can that be fixed?
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>> Are you going to discuss his blog about ICANN's carbon foot print?
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>> Could you also please raise the point that we are unclear about the
>> nature of evolving ICANN's MSM process? Brian Cute (if I am not mistaken)
>> was appointed by the Board or the CEO, and this whole initiative was
>> created in a top-down manner I believe. How do they want to actually evolve
>> the MSM when the process of evolving it is a top down process?
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>> I will raise both points, but if I put it in his briefing note, which is
>> restricted to three points, it will be like waving a red flag in front of a
>> bull.  He thinks he is being transparent.
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>> I hope that answers your questions and thanks for engaging on this, much
>> appreciated.
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>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:48 AM Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
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>>> I have my one on 14 with Goran tomorrow.  I am late in sending these
>>> questions out for approcal, they were due yesterday.  I have discussed with
>>> Bruna, that is it.  Let me know if you have any reactions, I am sending
>>> very shortly.
>>>
>>> cheers Steph
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