[Chapter-delegates] What's going on? As presented, the sale of PIR should be rejected by the Board

[Stephanie Perrin]

I think there have been many questions raised about this situation on our list.  Do members wish to do something concrete, and if so, what?  I feel somewhat constrained as I am a delegated representative for NCSG on the PIR Advisory Board.  Unfortunately I had to miss a big meeting of the Advisory Board in Washington DC recently, but I gather this sale was not discussed there at the meeting so I did not miss any advance notice of this.

I am not sure that a letter expressing our concerns would make an impact, but I am happy to draft and convey such a letter if members think it would be a good idea.

Regards

Stephanie Perrin

On 2019-11-16 07:52, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
Obviously, you read my line of thought before I reposted that email.
However, at this point, fingers crossed. 🤞🤞🤞

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 12:46 PM dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com<mailto:dgdorothydg at gmail.com>> wrote:
I would have been surprised if he had said anything different. I know you did not feel reassured by this statement.  In terms of what is widely accepted as good governance, there are many wrong things about this deal regardless of the eventual pricing implications.' Reasonably' priced is open to vast differences in interpretation.  What is reasonable for a multi-millionaire who made it selling domains is not the same for an NGO with problems making payroll for its two staff.  Also notice I did not say the deal is illegal. I do not have the right skills to make such an assessment but it does warrant some fresh thinking about what would constitute a robust regulatory framework and in my view may cause people to look at ISOC very differently as we go forward.

best regards



On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 12:06 PM Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com<mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>> wrote:
So I asked ISOC CEO above the .ORG pricing. Find his response below.

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 04:21:24AM +0000, Caleb Ogundele wrote:

> The implication might see to the increase in the purchase price of dot ORG
> domains.

You might have seen that anyway, because ISOC historically (and still!
this deal hasn't closed, remember!) has relied upon the money coming
from PIR to support ISOC's activities.  The thing that actually
constrains wholesale prices in .org is its market, not ICANN and not
PIR's status as a non-profit.  And note what both PIR has said about
the topic: "Our goal has always been to make .ORG accessible and
reasonably priced – and that will continue under our new ownership."

Best regards,

A

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