Opening an account for NPOC, NCUC and NCSG in Estonia

[Joan Kerr]

Hi Raoul,

The idea of e-citizenship is new to me.  What are the legal obligations?  I
think this seems far reaching.  Perhaps, we can discuss the options within
NPOC and then with the Finance Committee when we have clear definitions of
how it might work.
Thanks,

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:23 PM Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I've tried unsuccesfully opening an account for NPOC here in Finland and
> what it really comes down to, are the restrictions of having account owners
> that are based in Finland and every time they would be changed, they'd have
> to come over to Finland to do so. The same goes for the NCUC's current
> account.
>
> Now, I think we (me and Tapani) have found a solution to our problems and
> it is such that I will get a e-citizenship in Estonia, register the C's and
> the SG in Estonia and then open the bank account to each of them separately
> in person. We'll probably need another few people to take e-residencies as
> well, to share the responsibility and accountability of said accounts and
> the e-residency costs 100€ per person. https://apply.gov.ee/
>
> None of our SG's organisational structure is officially recognised
> anywhere but inside ICANN - I think we should change that and register in a
> country that is actually a lot more lenient than Finland or USA, for
> example.
>
>
> https://www.estoniancompanyregistration.com/nonprofit-organisation-registration-in-estonia
>
> The most essential difference to most countries is that Estonia allows
> change of authorised users on bank accounts to people with e-residency ID,
> and this change can be done in any consulate of Estonia in the world.
>
> All I would need, is the boat trip to Tallinn and back and one night in a
> local hotel. This would be less than 200€ in total.
>
> 200€ for e-residency for two people, per account, so 600€.
>
> We'd also need to cover the costs of registering our organisations in
> Estonia, which will probably make things easier, and I think all three can
> be registered for less that 200€ in total.
>
> So... We'd need about a thousand euros + 5 people wanting to put their
> names as the account holders. What do you guys think? If we discuss this
> further, I might actually get all the details together by Kobe.
>
> I think it would be crucial to finally get our organisational
> infrastructure together and be able to change people as the account
> holders. Now the situation is really inflexible and reliant on a very few
> people with access to the accounts.
>
> Once we register the organisations as not-for-profits, we could also
> finally get an government ID to start using Google's nonprofit benefits
> which are really quite numerous. Same goes for Dropbox for example, they
> give 30% discount.
>
> -Raoul
>
> P.S. While I was searching, I found this a record of the CSG having a
> nonprofit register in the USA. I found that somewhat surprising.
>
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>
>

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