Council Member replacement
Nadira Alaraj
nadira.araj at GMAIL.COM
Tue Dec 17 08:32:09 EET 2019
Dear Stephanie and all,
With regards to the domicile and to avoid any confusion is to follow what
is in ICANN bylaws.
For purposes of this *Section 7.2(b)*, if any candidate for director
maintains citizenship of more than one country, or has been *domiciled for
more than five years* in a country of which the candidate does not maintain
citizenship ("*Domicile*"), that candidate may be deemed to be from either
country and must select in his or her Statement of Interest the country of
citizenship or Domicile that he or she wants the Nominating Committee to
use for Diversity Calculation purposes.
Nadira
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 15:06 Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> You have put your finger on it Caleb, it is indeed a rather odd system.
> In theory, you could run 12 folks from different regions of Africa (or
> Europe, or North America, etc) who were domiciled in the other ICANN
> regions of the world, and they would all be eligible if they declared
> according to residence. I am not sure that this is a great way to
> represent the stakeholders of the different regions of the world, but it is
> what our charter says we do. And very confusing.
>
> We are looking into updating those pages, and my apologies for adding to
> the confusion!
>
> Stephanie
> On 2019-12-17 07:55, James Gannon wrote:
>
> Members choose their self-declaration so it is up to them, which is a good
> solution as long as we stick to a single source of truth (Which is the SOI)
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
> <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 12:53
> *To: *James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> <lists at icann.guru>
> *Cc: *ncsg discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: Council Member replacement
>
>
>
> @James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
>
> With this, it probably looks like Africa has no representation by the mere
> look of the SOIs.
>
> I'm I missing something? The confusion caused by region which one os
> domiciled seems to play a more prominent role than by nationality and
> regional representation?
>
>
>
> Caleb Ogundele
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM James Gannon <lists at icann.guru>
> <lists at icann.guru> wrote:
>
> For Council elections/selections the relevant source of truth is the GNSO
> SOI's and Council declarations mentioned here:
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council
>
> Rafik Dammak (SOI) - AAPAC (AGM 2020)
> Elsa Saade (SOI) – NA – (AGM 2020)
> Tatiana Tropina (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
> Martin Silva Valent (SOI) – LAC (AGM 2020)
> Farell Folly (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
> Farzaneh Badii (SOI) – NA (AGM 2021)
>
> ---
> James Gannon
>
> On 17.12.19, 12:30, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> My apologies if I made a mistake, but looking at the page Stephanie
> pointed to, I see the regions as follows:
>
> Africa: Rafik Dammak and Farell Folly
> Asia-Pacific: Elsa Saade
> Europe: Tatiana Tropina
> Latin America: Martin Pablo Valent
>
> Cf. https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg
>
> If that's not correct then my analysis obviously needs to be adjusted
> accordingly. I am aware that Rafik lives in Japan, but our rules and
> precedents give some leeway for people who have ties in multiple
> regions to choose which they choose to declare (I oversimplified in
> saying residence is the determining factor), and I presumed the above
> page to indicate Rafik has chosen to declare Africa according to his
> native Tunisia.
>
> Tapani
>
>
> On Dec 17 12:03, James Gannon (lists at icann.guru) wrote:
>
> > This doesn't match with the current declared regions of our
> councilors, I think it would be most appropriate for the EC to weigh in on
> eligibility concerns.
> >
> > ---
> > James Gannon
> >
> > On 17.12.19, 06:29, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Yes, you are eligible, indeed in a slightly favoured position.
> >
> > It's residence that counts, not country of origin. If you live
> and pay
> > taxes in the USA or Canada, you are North American for this
> purpose.
> >
> > Otherwise, looking at current council composition and NCSG
> charter,
> > the situation is briefly like this:
> >
> > * An African can only be selected if there are no other viable
> > candidates (as there already are two Africans). This is a hard
> > rule, "To the maximum extent possible", but as noted it would
> > not exclude you if you are North American resident now.
> >
> > * Of two otherwise equally competent candidates, a North American
> > would be preferred over others and a woman over a man. These are
> > softer rules, "Reasonable efforts", so other qualifications could
> > be more important.
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:33:37PM -0600, KASWESHA (
> kaswesha at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
> > >
> > > I am currently settled in North America but I am not very sure
> whether I am
> > > eligible. Somebody advise.
> > >
> > > Regards;
> > >
> > > James Njoroge Gitau
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> > > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As members will have seen, Farzaneh Badii has resigned her
> council seat,
> > > > so it is the responsibility of the NCSG Executive Committee
> to select a
> > > > replacement until the next election takes place in summer
> 2020. In order
> > > > to enable this, we are seeking expressions of interest in
> the position.
> > > > Please send your statement of interest to me, copy Maryam
> Bakoshi, before
> > > > the 28th of December. For your interest, the relevant
> section of the
> > > > Charter concerning these circumstances is paragraph 2,
> section 3.2 (copied
> > > > below). For information about the current composition of
> the council see
> > > >
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg. We
> > > > appear to have representation from everywhere except North
> America.
> > > >
> > > > Stephanie Perrin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Section 3.2 para 2
> > > >
> > > > In the event that a GNSO Council Representatives is unable
> to finish his
> > > > or her term, the NCSG EC will appoint a temporary GNSO
> Council
> > > > Representative to serve until the next regularly scheduled
> election as
> > > > provided in Section 3.8 of the GOP. At that time, a new
> GNSO Council
> > > > Representative will be elected to serve out the balance of
> the vacated
> > > > term, if any.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Tapani Tarvainen
> >
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Ogundele Olumuyiwa Caleb*
>
> *muyiwacaleb at gmail.com <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>*
>
> *234 - 8077377378*
>
> *234 - 07030777969*
>
>
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