Benjamin's concern about .org holder awareness and engagement.

Remmy Nweke remmyn at GMAIL.COM
Mon Dec 9 17:54:12 EET 2019


Thanks Joan
Despite NTEN covering the entire technology landscape on this, as you said,
its VIP that NPOC also engages on its own to give members within the
internet precise ecosystem the required sense of belonging as not everyone
knows about NTEN and that NPOC is collaborating with them as far as this
.org controversy rages. As you can see, there is a lot of ignorant or
misconceptions on how we got here with .org and or how it should have
evolved with regards to rights and data not withstanding, moreso if PIR
board was in the full know and could do nothing to safe the day regardless
the interest of their distinct communities.
For me all the while the community was busy discussing the beauty or
otherwise of cap price, this was part of the game plan and was not an
overnight deal.
Regards
Remmy
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 11:11 PM Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org> wrote:

> Hi Arsene,
>
> I agree that NPOC has can step in and engage not for profit, however, the
> NTEN is doing that and we are supporting them.  I attended their meeting on
> savethedotorg last week to hear from the community, ISOC and Ethos.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:46 PM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And that's where the. NPOC should step in and engage with non profits
>> across the world, starting with engaging their members about this .org saga!
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 3:50 PM Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Benjamin you ask a very important question, just take Africa alone and
>>> the number of NGO's that are registered with .org, most dont even know
>>> their rights neither to participate in IG debates. It is very sad that, the
>>> very people that should know better are taken taken advantage. I see this
>>> to be a calculated move, it didnt just start today.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:30 PM Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Benjamin,
>>>>
>>>> You have raised an important point here, one that applies to more than
>>>> just the .org domain name holders, won’t go away, and requires increased
>>>> attention.
>>>>
>>>> Every person, community, company, and government is now a resident in
>>>> the Internet ecosystem. Most have no idea of their rights and obligations
>>>> as "citizens" in those digital spaces.
>>>>
>>>> In literal citizenship one’s rights and obligations evolve out of
>>>> appropriate legislation, and education around acceptable behavior. There
>>>> are starts around privacy rights, e.g. EU’s GPDR.
>>>>
>>>> There is also an issue in this .org transaction, with ICANN’s attempts
>>>> to give questionable powers to registries and registrars under the
>>>> ill-named banner of DNS Abuse.
>>>>
>>>> Making .org domain name holders aware of their rights and obligations,
>>>> and engaging them in the policy and behavior dialogues, are important parts
>>>> of defining digital citizenship.
>>>>
>>>> Sam Lanfranco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>>> *From*: Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> *To*: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>>> *Sent*: Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 8:59 AM
>>>> *Subject*: Re: Milton's Dec 8th Draft & Commentary
>>>>
>>>> I also align with this letter, however I just have some concern playing
>>>> in my head.
>>>> How does this process get the representation of the about 10 million
>>>> registrants of the .org TLD , knowing fully that many of them don't even
>>>> participate in the IG processes? It is just a question in my head.
>>>>
>>>> However this is a good approach compared to others.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Benjamin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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