[proposed letter] NCSG Concerns About the Sale of the Public Interest Registry to Ethos Capital

[Michael J. Oghia]

Agreed Ayden. As the non-commercial constituency, I think it would be an
injustice to our values/principles and our entire raison d'etre if we
didn't issue at least some kind of formal statement about this. I don't
think doing so would contradict the more nuanced technical and political
maneuvering that Milton and others suggest in terms of possible recourse.

Best,
-Michael



On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:59 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> I think Lizzy and Milton among others have drawn lot of attention to non
> effect of this letter or any other one.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree that sending this letter would be unlikely to have an effect. I
> just don't think that's a reason to remain silent and not send one.
> Shouldn't we at least try?
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 01:31, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi all
> I think Lizzy and Milton among others have drawn lot of attention to non
> effect of this letter or any other one.
>
> I will like to suggest to those of us who have hanged around .org TLD to
> start thinking of plan B including getting alternate domain and redirect
> the current one and if hosted by PIR find alternative too depending on the
> agreement abnitio.
> Regards
> Remmy
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 8:33 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> ICANN has no authority to stop the sale of PIR to a private entity.  But
>> this sale is unethical from multiple dimensions and among other things will
>> have a negative impact on the future of Multistakeholderism in the IG
>> ecosystem.
>>
>> I bet no one saw this coming, and mixed with ISOC being too familiar at
>> the time of auctioning contributed to this legal loophole.
>>
>> As NCSG I don't think our efforts to influence ICANN broad to halt this
>> sale will yield anything.  But surely the board is free to issue an advise
>> against the sale. The silence makes it seem like everything is okay or at
>> least it is supporting this madness.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 21:19 Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve reviewed this letter and I think it takes the wrong approach and
>>> should be scrapped.
>>>
>>> It is basically asking ICANN to just stop the sale, which it has no real
>>> authority to do, and does not offer a viable set of protections for .org
>>> registrants.
>>>
>>> It’s about expressing anger and not about constructive response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Milton L Mueller
>>>
>>> School of Public Policy
>>>
>>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>>
>>> [image: IGP_logo_gold block_email sig]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Ayden
>>> Férdeline
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 3, 2019 7:51 AM
>>> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>> *Subject:* [proposed letter] NCSG Concerns About the Sale of the Public
>>> Interest Registry to Ethos Capital
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have drafted a letter outlining some concerns about the proposed sale
>>> of PIR to Ethos Capital. It is in a Google Doc here.
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GNSxNtZ7k-TtvQkpVXhlSABxi0JYVzDNHU7zZCQtiPU/edit?usp=sharing>
>>> In a nutshell, I am calling for ICANN to exercise its right in article 7.5
>>> of the .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG Registry Agreements to withhold its approval
>>> for ISOC to assign its rights and obligations to Ethos Capital. I hope that
>>> the NCSG might consider sending it. Feel free to make/propose edits
>>> directly into the document. If the NCSG does not feel comfortable sending
>>> it, perhaps interested individuals could sign on instead and we can send it
>>> off in our individual capacities? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>
>>
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