Questions for our board meeting in Barcelona

[farzaneh badii]

Thanks Michael.

We also need questions for the Board. What should we ask?


Farzaneh


On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 9:49 AM Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks so much for raising this. I think the problem I have with this
> question is that "inclusivity, accountability and transparency" are
> all lumped together.
>
> There is, I think, a natural tension between efficacy and inclusivity
> and, to some extent, between efficacy and accountability (if the
> latter is understood as enhanced consultation, engagement, etc.).
> Obviously, processes would go more smoothly if it was easy to exclude
> anyone who was being "disruptive" or "extreme" - though at a
> potentially significant cost to the integrity of the process (who
> defines what constitutes an "extreme" position?). Similarly, trying to
> reach out to a broader base of opinions, and consult with
> stakeholders, will naturally slow the process down, and make it more
> costly - but again - there are benefits to the integrity of the
> process.
>
> However, I definitely think we should push back against any claims
> that there is a tradeoff between transparency and efficacy, or that
> transparency somehow presents an unreasonable burden on ICANN's
> resources. There's no evidence that transparency actually inhibits
> effective policy making, even though that claim is frequently raised
> to argue against transparency. Similarly, transparency systems are
> actually quite cheap to implement provided that they are baked in from
> the outset.
>
> In other words - I broadly agree with Ayden that this is a legitimate
> and important question to ask - and I think we as a community need to
> consider carefully what our position is on how these values are
> balanced..... but I think it's inappropriate to consider transparency
> as part of the conversation on efficiency and tradeoffs, since it
> wrongly implies that transparent systems are ineffective.
>
> Michael
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:53 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't buy this argument that ICANN is not getting anything done and we
> are all in danger etc. RDS was a very contagious issue, it had to be dealt
> with with care and perhaps some reform in working modality. I don't see the
> similar problem in sub pro or even RPM. They are making progress. Yes they
> won't be done by tomorrow but they will be done.
> >
> > My suggestion is: when you see you are not making progress change your
> methods try new ones. Don't be shy to change the chair, to have criteria
> for kicking out those who are disruptive and actually kick out the
> disruptive.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:28 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Farzi,
> >>
> >> I think it is quite a legitimate question, and it is one that the GNSO
> Council has been pondering this year when imagining what the GNSO’s Policy
> Development Process 3.0 might look like.
> >>
> >> Of course you can be transparent and accountable and meet objectives,
> but not at no cost. Look at the now-dead RDS PDP WG for example. The cost
> in terms of our time as volunteers in having to dredge through 1,000s of
> pages of transcripts, just as many email threads, and joining in weekly
> calls for two years is substantial. And was it an effective use of our
> resources? I think not. Was it an effective use of ICANN’s resources? I’m
> struggling to think it was, given the working group died with no outcome
> document.
> >>
> >> So what’s the solution? I’ve read through the solutions that the BC,
> IPC, and the contracted parties have suggested to the GNSO Council (we did
> not submit any input) and some of the proposals are not great — for us. As
> a stakeholder group  I think we need to reflect on this question quite
> seriously and come to the table with some solutions. Because the solutions
> others have would essentially spell an end to bottom-up multistakeholder
> participation, and prioritise the creation of more Expert Working Groups to
> deal with challenging policy issues.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Ayden
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 Sep 2018, at 16:09, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Received this note from Cherine asking for our questions to the board
> to be submitted on 1 October. Also we need to think about how to respond to
> Boards questions.
> >>
> >> Their second question is quite curious. You can't be transparent and
> accountable and get work done? Old argument of efficiency vs other values.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent on behalf of Cherine Chalaby, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Questions to the Board - Please reply no later than Monday 1 October
> 2018
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Board is looking forward to meeting with you at the upcoming AGM
> starting on 20 October 2018 in Barcelona.  While we are looking at always
> improving our processes and interaction with you, we also would like to
> look at the challenges ahead of us in 2019.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am therefore sending you herewith two questions that the Board would
> like to submit to your attention for the upcoming face-to-face meetings in
> Barcelona:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - What will be your main priorities in 2019?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - How should ICANN's multisatkeholder model of governance and Policy
> Development Process evolve to balance the increasing need for inclusivity,
> accountability and transparency, with the imperative of getting our work
> done and our policies developed in a more effective and timely manner, and
> with the efficient utilization of ICANN’s resources?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In the meantime, we would be very grateful if you could send to Board
> Operations (board-ops-team at icann.org)  the questions you would like the
> Board to address during our face-to-face meetings.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Given the finite time available for these meetings, we would appreciate
> it very much if you could list your questions in order of priority.   We
> would also appreciate getting your questions no later than Monday 1
> October, 2018 or sooner.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We thank you in advance for your time on this matter and we look
> forward to welcoming you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cherine Chalaby
> >>
> >> Chair, ICANN Board of Directors
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Farzaneh
> >>
> >>
> > --
> > Farzaneh
>
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