[NCUC-DISCUSS] CORRECTION - ICANN63 Travel Slots announcement
Ayden Férdeline
icann at FERDELINE.COM
Sun Sep 2 09:18:13 EEST 2018
> I also believe that persons who are unable to use travel opportunities due to visa refusals should not be penalised and we should work this into our criteria.
I agree with this. If our Operating Procedures are unclear on this point, I would suggest we revise them to clarify the intent (which I believe was to ensure a fair and equitable allocation and rotation of resources, and not to penalise those who find themselves unable to travel because of circumstances outside of their control).
> I still think a brief write-up is necessary for institutional memory.
I too think this is important.
We should learn from this.
Ayden
> On 1 Sep 2018, at 08:25, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for taking the time to respond. I am glad Benjamin got a personalised apology. The 'personal reasons' I referred to were in Bruna's response to Wisdom and I assume referred to the reasons he (B) did not use his previous travel opportunity. I still think a brief write-up is necessary for institutional memory. I also believe that persons who are unable to use travel opportunities due to visa refusals should not be penalised and we should work this into our criteria. I accept that your explanation that this is not relevant to the current situation.
> Let me take this opportunity to express my appreciation for all of you who volunteer to keep this group on track. I know how much time it takes me just keeping up with the messages and information and most of us have day jobs as well. This is a blip we will get over it.
> best regards
> Dorothy
>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 1:34 AM, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dorothy,
>>
>> You raise some very valid points, I think. In terms of the fact that
>> we were late to catch Benjamin's ineligibility - I think you are 100%
>> correct. I don't really have an excuse. As soon as someone mentioned
>> the eligibility issue, it seemed very obvious, and silly that we
>> hadn't caught it before - and I genuinely regret not realizing it
>> sooner. More than anything else, I think the way this unfolded was
>> very unfair to Benjamin. We've written directly to him apologizing -
>> and I think he has every right to be upset, because I know it sucks to
>> have that announcement go out and then get pulled back. At the same
>> time, I think the bylaws are clear, and while the first announcement
>> shouldn't have gone out, I think that once we realized he was
>> ineligible we had no choice in terms of his funding.
>>
>> In terms of the phrasing of "personal reasons" - I'm not 100% sure
>> which email you're referring to, as I can't find it in this chain, but
>> I believe it is our policy not to consider visa status in weighing a
>> travel application - precisely for the reasons you mention. Anyway -
>> Benjamin's visa status for Spain played no role in this discussion,
>> nor did Dina's status, or Shahul's, or any of the other applicants.
>>
>> Best wishes - and very happy to discuss this further, or answer any
>> further questions or concerns on what happened,
>>
>> Michael
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