Elsa Saade as temp alternate to Arsene on GNSO Council

Remmy Nweke remmyn at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jun 25 14:32:24 EEST 2018


yes, it may have not been attended to in the past, but I agree we put it in
the agenda for instance, NCSG-CEO-Board meetings as part of issues on the
table. It is also VIP to reach out to the meeting organising team of ICANN
as a feedback and push from every end, including NCSG, GAC, Business
Constituency etc.
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:28 PM dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I say escalate I mean beyond conversation.  Every bid should explain
> by region how they will facilitate visas and smooth entry.  If they cannot
> guarantee equal access then they should not be considered.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Onica Makwakwa <nmakwakwa at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I second that suggestion from Dorothy as I suspect this will be a greater
>> challenge for Barcelona (based on past experience dealing with their
>> embassies in this region). Beyond just escalating this, we need to have a
>> conversation on how ease of visa issuance should be a big part when
>> considering meeting locations.
>>
>> Onica
>>
>> Onica N. Makwakwa
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dorothy g <dgdorothydg at GMAIL.COM>
>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>> Sent: Mon, Jun 25, 2018 6:50 pm
>> Subject: Re: Elsa Saade as temp alternate to Arsene on GNSO Council
>>
>> Is it possible for us to document all those who could not attend due to
>> visa issues and escalate this concern? We need Africans to be at the table.
>>
>> best
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Adeel Sadiq <11beeasadiq at seecs.edu.pk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> One part of the bigger picture is, most of the ICANN staff are from
>> developed countries who don't face strict visa issues like people from
>> developing countries do. I have been denied visa to attend a similar
>> conferences (not ICANN though) more than once. I even tried to raise the
>> same issue in Public Forum at Copenhagen, but was politically turned down
>> with almost a null response by the so-called 'meeting team'. You never
>> realize the true measure of a problem unless it is at your personal
>> doorstep.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Adeel
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:12 PM, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is an extremely important point Arsene. There is no justification
>> for choosing such a location without making special arrangements.
>> Glad at least you can listen in.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Elsa, everyone!
>>
>> It is unfortunate that the gov of Panama could not grant visa on arrival
>> while they are aware that their visa process is very complicated.
>>
>> Think: they only have two consulates in the whole African continent!!!
>>
>> I hope ICANN Org will be able to negociate things like these beforehand
>> when they select host countries.
>>
>> Thanks Elsa for willing to help and thanks Farzaneh and the EC for
>> working out this very quickly!
>>
>> -----------------
>> Arsène Tungali,
>> about.me/ArseneTungali
>> +243 993810967
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> It really saddens me that some of us haven't been able to make it because
>> of Visa issues. But happy to help and make myself available anytime!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:31 AM, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I guess this is a last minute thing given the visa issue. Thank you
>> Elsa for stepping in.  When will this discrimination against Africans stop!
>> Arsene glad you can listen in and hopefully next time you will not
>> encounter this problem.
>>
>> best
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:25 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> She still takes on some of my tasks. She was not going to replace me. But
>> because we found out last minute that Arsene cannot make it, thought it's
>> better to have an alternate for Arsene because this is an important
>> meeting.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:23 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mrs Chair,
>>
>> Thanks for the info, but I thought Elsa was going to replace you instead?
>> What happened?
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On 24 Jun 2018, at 07:49, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Unfortunately, Arsene cannot make it to Panama. Arsene will be
>> participating remotely in the Council meetings but we decided that for an
>> in-person presence, Elsa Saade can be his temp alternate.
>>
>> This was a last minute decision which we had to take because we were
>> still hopeful that Arsene could make it.
>>
>> Will see you and Arsene remotely in virtual meeting rooms.
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>
>>
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