Organizational rep/individual members in elections

Remmy Nweke remmyn at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jul 21 12:27:56 EEST 2018


Hi Farzaneh
Thanks for bringing this up.

Basically in most organisations where organisation and individuals hold
separate vote is where they actually pay for membership with organisation
simply having two votes because their membership dues are usually a little
higher than that of individuals.

I think we can still resolve this, probably for organisation at elections
to hold 1 vote and individual 1 vote if there are two different persons or
where the organisations have alternate rep, otherwise where the
organisation is also the actual contact person, it could be resolved as to
have 1 vote.

Above, all, I also think that NCSG Charter needs review after 7 years, may
be by next year as I earnestly think lots have changed.

IMO
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On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have sent the message below to NCSG EC and I think we need to have a
> discussion about it and make an official decision on this issue. Please
> chime in:
>
> At the moment the organizational reps who are individual members of NCSG
> can participate in the elections as both organizational rep and individual
> members. Apparently, it has been discussed repeatedly in the past with no
> decision. Other than they said it is not against the charter.
>
> Not having remembered that it has been discussed but no decision made, I
> started contacting those who were listed as an individual member as well as
> organizational rep on the check-in list and asked them to choose whether
> they want to be individual members or represent their organization, since
> being both allowed them to vote twice which I think is not acceptable for
> the integrity of elections. Tapani corrected me and said the issue was
> discussed but never decided against
> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/election-reform/2017-June/000021.html
>
> I personally think it is unfair to allow organizational reps who are
> individual members to vote twice. This is because organizational reps
> (usually but not always) have autonomy from their organization to vote as
> they see appropriate and do not have a mandate as such. If they are also
> individual members, it provides them with the opportunity to vote twice and
> I think we need to fix it.
>
> It might be too late to do this in this election but we need to discuss
> and make a decision. I have started explaining the rationale to those who
> are organizational reps as well as individual members and asked them to
> decide what they want to do for this election voluntarily until we make a
> decision.
>
>
> Best
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
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