NCSG Travel Policy Lacks Inclusivity Please
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro
sala at PASIFIKANEXUS.NU
Sat Jul 7 20:03:20 EEST 2018
Thanks Farzaneh for the clarification.
Good points made by Stephanie too.
Have a great weekend!
Sala
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 12:33 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I removed the paragraph about policy committee but I cannot change this
> paragraph
>
> 1.
>
> c.If the applicant is to be an alternate to a GNSO Councillor, he or
> she should have an understanding of how the Council works and have observed
> their meetings beforehand. They must provide a letter of recommendation
> from either the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee or a serving member of
> the Council in his or her second term.
> 2.
> 1.
>
>
>
> You suggested that there should be a letter from the Finance Committee. I
> cannot accept that change. Remember we are talking about "alternate" to
> council member. Their task if they get the travel slot is to go to the
> meeting and go to council and policy meeting, has nothing to do with
> finance.
>
> I think the confusion comes from the fact the travel slots that we are
> talking in this travel policy is the ICANN support of NCSG EC (3 slots)
> and NCSG Council member slots (6 slots). We will need a more elaborate
> travel policy later on for other funding allocation. but as it stands this
> will do.
>
> I made as many changes as I could and removed the paragraph about policy
> committee . but some changes I could not make as I said above.
>
> Here is the doc.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_
> mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit?ts=5b40a6ef#
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:29 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Farzaneh
>>
>> Apologies for the long email note.
>>
>> Like I said earlier, the essence is being deminished when you start
>> laying emphasis on travel slot for a particular committee and leaving the
>> other who is supposed to be conducting it's interface with ICANN.org and
>> the community at large.
>>
>> Not because I got involved in Finance Committee, I have been to several
>> ICANN meetings in past 10 years largely not on ICANN.org, outside that
>> there is no part of the world I have not travelled to, so travel slot
>> should not be my headache, but for the mandate of the committee in the
>> charter, which I browse through hitherto until this appointment, there is
>> need to have stakeholder sessions, interface with ICANN.org, prospect
>> funders and get feedback on fund already spent, new modalities among others
>> and how best to evolve.
>>
>> it's important to ensure that the only two statutory committees of NCSG
>> (FC and PC) have equal footing when it comes to providing enabling
>> environment except if one decides to be mischievous, yet we expect equal
>> results.
>>
>> We all must work as a larger team without deminishing any to make
>> progress in NCSG especially on accountability and transparency.
>>
>> Personally I do not expect less from you as a leader of substance as far
>> as NCSG is for now and anyone taking over thereafter.
>>
>> So I still stand on my demands madam chair.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Remmy Nweke
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 Jul 2018 10:36 pm, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Remmy,
>>
>> For three years being in leadership positions at ICANN, out of 9 ICANN
>> meetings I attended only 3. I was an executive committee member an ncuc
>> chair and ncsg chair. I was effective and carried out my tasks well and did
>> more than many of those who actually attended meetings. Even more than some
>> of the previous chairs. I raised overall up to 88000 usd for ncuc and ncsg
>> from Icann for policy writing and capacity building. I managed an outreach
>> of 7000 usd which Icann paid as a crop event again from behind my desk at 3
>> am in the morning sometimes. My decision as ncsg chair not to seek re
>> election is of course because of not being able to travel but that is
>> totally different. When you are at the helm of a group unfortunately
>> because of this "leadership" culture of ICANN and hierarchy NCSG will
>> sometimes be without representative which is not in its interest. But when
>> you are with a committee in more of an executive function, You don't have
>> to attend ICANN meetings to do your job. If you get the opportunity to go
>> then great. But you don't have to.
>>
>> I think all ncsg members should know that travel slots don't bring
>> equality in participation. Participation brings participation and
>> inclusiveness. Hard work brings results. The result of participation can be
>> travel slots. It should not be vice versa.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:09 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the response Farzaneh,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it would amount to not wanting to make Finance Committee improve
>>> on its working processes and mandate to sound it off as mere “protecting
>>> the interest of members or wanting to score travel slot” which I think
>>> negates the purpose of the Finance Committee or probably why it has been in
>>> comatose lately.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For your information, the role and mandate of Finance Committee as
>>> contained in the NCSG Charter Section 2.6 is very clear and is not limited
>>> to the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Develop and deploy a fund raising plan for the NCSG;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Work with the ICANN’s staff to determine levels of support available to
>>> the NCSG;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
>>> Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. This
>>> accounting will include the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All funds raised by voluntary membership fees or otherwise must be held
>>> in a separate NCSG account.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Proper controls must be implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding Expenditures, FC is to among others see that:
>>>
>>>
>>> Financial reports must be prepared annually and be made public.
>>>
>>> Provide internal conflict resolution process regarding funds.
>>>
>>> Provide the oversight of the Treasurer function.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
>>> requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations
>>> within the ICANN structure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For now, the present crop of FC are not people who are merely seeking
>>> exposure, but want to contribute its quota, and thus find it unhealthy that
>>> Finance Committee is being relegated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at most of the responsibilities of the Finance Committee, its
>>> stakeholders and possible time for most of its functions and
>>> oversights must be dealt with within the ICANN stakeholdes meeting for
>>> proper engagement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, its in the best interest of *NCSG-EC* that the Finance
>>> Committee work and works well, so as to pave way for more accountability
>>> and transparency in our process and overtly more funding for our
>>> stakeholders.
>>>
>>> We cannot be demanding accountability and transparency from other
>>> stakeholders and tactically frustrate the efforts of Finance Committee
>>> thereby making the committee look as irredeemables.
>>>
>>>
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>>
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