Requirements for information about speakers and participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi

Wed Jun 28 15:07:18 EEST 2017

Thanks Farzaneh.  I went looking for those and couldn’t find them – my bad at navigating!  Appreciate the pointer.

As you said, these are practical criteria.  I don’t know whether “human rights record” is measurable but I do know that “ease of visa access” and “uniformity of treatment of all attendees” are measurable criteria that bear on that question and would be worth incorporating IMHO

Paul

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Subject: Re: Requirements for information about speakers and participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi

Sorry Paul, just to clarify there are already criteria in place for ICANN's selection of meeting location https://meetings.icann.org/en/host  <https://meetings.icann.org/en/host?> 

But they are limited and don't include some of the criteria that you mentioned. Some community members are of the opinion that for example ICANN should not be held in countries with bad human rights protection record. They have voiced their concern and it might be time to discuss such issues and perhaps introduce more criteria. 

Farzaneh 

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> > wrote:

Dear Farzaneh

Thank you for the update.  I guess I am a bit surprised when we have run 60 meetings that there are no criteria for selection.  But I guess that’s a reflection of how an organization grows up.  Good for the CEO to start down this path.  

I would hope that the NCSG/NCUC community supports the development of such criteria and works for the inclusion of  within the criteria of measurements related to openness, transparency and access within the hosting nation as part of how such selections are made.

Paul

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Subject: Re: Requirements for information about speakers and participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi

Hi Paul,

ICANN at the moment does not have such guidelines but ICANN CEO (as I reported to NCUC) told me that there will be discussions with the community on whether such guidelines and selection criteria of the venue should be introduced. 

Best 

Farzaneh

Farzaneh 

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> > wrote:

Since I am new to this issue perhaps I have an inadequate background.  But doesn’t (or shouldn’t) ICANN have some neutral guidelines for selecting sites for its events.  Some might be things like “has enough space and hotel rooms” but others might be things like “minimal, uniform standards for admission to the country”?

Paul

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Subject: Re: Requirements for information about speakers and participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi

Thanks for sharing that, Carlos, though in the UAE's case it's the tip of the iceberg in terms of torture, arrests, and forced disappearances of government critics: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/united-arab-emirates/report-united-arab-emirates/. There's a raft of legislation on the books targeting legitimate online speech, most infamously the Cybercrime Law, which includes heavy penalties for deriding or criticizing the government, national symbols, Islam, etc. While we're on the subject, it's also worth noting that homosexuality is a criminal offence in UAE...

In terms of how this is going to impact us in terms of content controls or censorship, as a relative newcomer here, I'd be interested to hear from some older hands as to how these challenges have been handled in years past. I see the 2008 AGM was in Cairo, for example. I imagine the 2016 event in Marrakech may have raised these issues as well, to a certain extent, though Morocco has always been a bit more liberal than the Gulf States.

Of course, I wouldn't see it as ICANN's role to be an advocate on this front, but it's certainly relevant to think about, given how many of us in the NCSG are activists by trade.

Michael 

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg at isoc-cr.org <mailto:crg at isoc-cr.org> > wrote:

Thanks Julff,

Thanks Aresen,

separating the speakers from the participants really seems to be a step further than just standard visa requirements. But it is the same country that (together with others) has recently requested Quaoar to shut down a regional news TV station.....

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On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks Johan,

While I salute their willingness to easy participation, permits for
participants, this raises indeed a lot of concerns with regards to
personal data as well as the fact that we can foresee some kind of
content censorship that might happen at this ICANN meeting.

I believe this should be raised somehow here at ICANN59 or being
widely shared so that people are aware and are able to communicate or
act accordingly.

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2017-06-28 13:47 UTC+02:00, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >:

> RIPE75 is taking place in Dubai the week before ICANN60. As a RIPE WG
> co-chair, I have been notified that the Department of Tourism and
> Commerce Marketing (DCTM) require the following information from all
> event participants:
>
> Full name
>
> Country of residence
> Date of birth
> Nationality
> Telephone number (mobile or landline)
> Email address
>
> In addition, for all "speakers" ( anyone who is presenting on stage):
>
> A colour copy of their passport
>
> Profile/bio for the speaker (at least 200 characters)
> Mobile number
>
> The stated reason is "To facilitate greater efficiency for event
> organisers and government entities that are responsible for granting
> permits. The data is used to conduct analysis, market research and
> examine industry trends. The data is not shared with other event
> organisers or ticket resellers/registration companies", but it seems
> that the real reason is for security (to avoid anti-government or
> anti-religious speakers).
>
> It is unclear how long they will keep the information supplied or how it
> will be handled.
>
> I am assuming that the same rules apply for ICANN60 too.
>
> I am probably not the only one that is somewhat concerned...
>
>      Julf
>
>
>

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