CCWG-IG/ Do we want a CCWG on Internet Governance?

[Michael Oghia]

Hi everyone,

Forgive my belated reply. I largely agree with everything that has been
said so far. I consider myself an active member of the CCWG-IG because I
see the value of its work, but I'm not wedded to the current structure. It
would be good to continue having such a space within ICANN, especially
because I see myself being less involved in the domain space per se in the
future but still seeing the value of what ICANN contributes to the
ecosystem as a whole.

Best,
-Michael

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Thanks Rafik, my impression as an outsider looking in at the ICANN Twitter
> account is that the organisation sponsors many events, many of which have
> only a loose connection to ICANN's mission. This is not to suggest that
> ICANN should not sponsor these events, but I would like to see a list of
> which events are being sponsored by ICANN, whether the support is in kind
> or in cash, and which staff are traveling to these fora and for what
> purpose. If the CCWG-IG is not place for this to happen, I wonder where
> might be?
>
> Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] CCWG-IG/ Do we want a CCWG on Internet
> Governance?
> Local Time: July 4, 2017 12:50 PM
> UTC Time: July 4, 2017 11:50 AM
> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>
> Hi Ayden,
>
> the CCWG-IG works closely with the Government engagement team from ICANN,
> which is under Tarek Kamel responsibility. it is the team which submits all
> comments, input to different IG related processes like CSTD, OECD etc and
> tasked to handle IG related issues for ICANN.
>
> my understanding that sponsoring and supporting different events you are
> mentioning are done by other staff and departments such as Global
> Stakeholder Engagement division and they are not necessarily meant
> endorsing specific positions by the organization. I recall the Board
> working group on IG discussing ICANN financial support of IGF and national
> and regional IGFs and that is related indeed to IG. I am not sure that is
> the role of the CCWG-IG  in overseeing ALL events supported or funded by
> ICANN
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2017-07-02 2:08 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Thank you for this update, Farzaneh. I was struck by how few people
>> attended the CCWG-IG’s meeting in Johannesburg last week, and by how little
>> of substance was on the agenda. I am also on its mailing list and it seems
>> to me to be excessively focused on submitting workshop proposals for the
>> IGF and WSIS. Personally I would like to see more reporting back to the
>> CCWG-IG by ICANN staff of their involvement in external fora, and more
>> involvement of the CCWG-IG in holding ICANN staff accountable for what they
>> are advocating for and doing outside ICANN. I do not think that happens to
>> a sufficient level at the moment. Take a look at the ICANN Twitter account
>> at how many events ICANN apparently sponsors, many of which seem to have
>> little to no relevance to Internet governance, and look at the very few
>> reports back to the community that ICANN staff provide.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: CCWG-IG/ Do we want a CCWG on Internet Governance?
>> Local Time: June 29, 2017 1:14 PM
>> UTC Time: June 29, 2017 12:14 PM
>> From: farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM
>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As you know I am the NCSG rep on CCWG-IG. Here is an update on the status
>> of CCWG-IG.
>>
>> As a background ( and Bill can correct me if I am not right) CCWG-IG was
>> created a couple of years ago and has made statements on Netmundial and
>> been active on raising awareness about IANA transition and ICANN
>> accountability in the IG environment. People perceive its work as an
>> awareness raising group which should bridge the gap between ICANN staff and
>> Community regarding their IG related activities and also be mindful of
>> statements from Intergovernmental organizations that might meddle with
>> ICANN mandate.
>>
>> It usually organizes workshops at IGF, WSIS and other forums. ICANN staff
>> has been very cooperative (especially Nigel Hickson) and are eager to work
>> with the community for arranging such sessions. We also plan to be engaged
>> with Board more.
>> Find their report and charter: https://community.ica
>> nn.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275
>>
>> There is, however, some controversy going on. Some groups are not happy
>> with the work of ccwg-ig. Even after ccwg modified its charter to
>> streamline its activities and its objectives, they still believe that CCWG
>> might not be the right format for such activities. Some believe that
>> CCWG-IG receives funding for its travel to various IG venues, which is not
>> true. There is no funding for travel allocated to CCWG-IG.
>>
>> It has gotten to a point that we should now consult with our communities
>> about whether CCWG-IG should continue its work and under what circumstances
>> it should do so.
>>
>> Lets have a conversation about it here and I will compile your comments
>> and relay them to the group.
>>
>> My opinion is that, CCWG-IG's members and participants should be active
>> and should relay the work to their respective community. In many instances,
>> when it comes to writing proposals and statements, very few people engage
>> with activities. I think that has to be corrected. But I don't know how.
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>>
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