Requirements for information about speakers and participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA
Sun Jul 2 06:44:00 EEST 2017
I am behind on this thread. Lots of women and folks with LGBTQ concerns
don't want to go to Abu Dhabi. Has there been any thought of arranging
a satellite conference for those who don't want to /can't fly to AD for
safety, comfort, or visa reasons? I think we might get quite a few
participants in such a satellite conference, and we could hold it
somewhere safe and easy to get to, with really good conferencing
facilities. Just a thought.
Stephanie
On 2017-06-29 08:25, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> I don't think anyone is trying to question your commitment to human
> rights - I'm certainly not.
>
> I don't know your CV in detail, but I can tell you mine involves
> coordinating human rights advocacy projects in Afghanistan, Palestine,
> Jordan, Indonesia, Myanmar, Kazakhstan, Pakistan and the Maldives,
> among other high pressure spots. I understand very well the
> entitlement/privilege of which you speak, and I never forget that at
> the end of the day, I get on a plane and fly out, while the local
> activists are the ones who have to deal with the fallout of the work.
> However, if we're talking about the people that are on the front
> lines, we don't do them any favours by staying silent. Indeed, often
> the best protection they have is international publicity. I've had
> these conversations a lot with people in high risk areas, and I can't
> recall ever being told to dial things back, except where that was part
> of a broader advocacy strategy (like, to protect ongoing backchannel
> discussions).
>
> That said, I'm not proposing arranging special sessions to discuss the
> country's human rights record, since this seems quite tangential to
> what we're supposed to be engaging on as part of the ICANN process.
> But I also don't think we should commit to keeping silent on this
> issue as individuals and, if the subject comes up, potentially as a
> stakeholder group. Perhaps we don't disagree on that? In either case,
> I would very much welcome inputs of colleagues that are in country, or
> active across the region.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca
> <mailto:lanfran at yorku.ca>> wrote:
>
> James,
>
> Let me make it clear. My position is based on the risk that in
> most cases "in country ICANN constituency human rights activities"
> during conferences will put national groups and peoples at risk.
> This is different, and separate from, more generic ICANN
> discussions of the relationship between protecting human rights
> and the security and stability of the DNS system (ICANN's remit).
>
> As someone individually who has championed human rights for over
> half a century, been tear gassed and shot at, I am firmly in the
> camp of human rights activists.
> If the NCSG consensus position is to either treat such activities
> as within ICANN's remit (some might challenge that), or if
> delegates wish to arrange "rump sessions"
> dealing with country specific human issues, I would press for
> prior full consultation and endorsement by the local groups who
> would be engaged in the events.
> This would be more that just scheduling sessions and inviting
> local groups to participate.
>
> My core concern is that ICANN constituency members should not use
> their entitlement (temporary presence under the ICANN banner) to
> put highly exposed local activists at risk.
>
> Sam
>
> On 6/29/2017 6:40 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>>
>>
>> I
>> would go so far as to recommend that for countries with human rights
>> issues, digital or otherwise, if and when ICANN reaches what it
>> considers as a satisfactory arrangement, there is an
>> understanding that
>> during the event none of ICANN’s constituency groups will
>> publicly, or
>> in collaboration with local groups, engage in activities that
>> challenge
>> human rights record and policies of the local government.
>>
>> Hey Sam,
>>
>> This would fly in the face of most if not the vast majority of
>> NCUCs mission and outreach, these are the groups and peoples that
>> we say we are here to engage with and support and advocate for.
>>
>>
>> -James
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on behalf of Sam Lanfranco
>> <lanfran at YORKU.CA> <mailto:lanfran at YORKU.CA>
>> *Sent:* 28 June 2017 23:13:35
>> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>> *Subject:* Re: Requirements for information about speakers and
>> participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi
>> Constituency Colleagues,
>>
>> The subject of human rights and, in particular, the rights of
>> digital
>> citizenship in countries hosting ICANN meetings, is both the
>> elephant
>> and the gorilla (the unspoken issues) in ICANN Conference venue
>> discussions. Without going into specifics, in the past several
>> years
>> ICANN has held its conferences in countries where, while ICANN was
>> meeting, governments were exercising extreme control over their
>> citizenry’s access to the Internet and cell phone service.
>>
>> What is absolutely clear is that ICANN should have venue criteria
>> that
>> are sensitive to these issues, and these are issues that should be
>> raised in all ICANN venue selection discussions.
>>
>> What is also absolutely clear is that such issues should be
>> raised and
>> addressed prior to the selection of a venue. The subsequent ICANN
>> event
>> should not be used as a platform for raising country specific
>> issues. I
>> would go so far as to recommend that for countries with human rights
>> issues, digital or otherwise, if and when ICANN reaches what it
>> considers as a satisfactory arrangement, there is an
>> understanding that
>> during the event none of ICANN’s constituency groups will
>> publicly, or
>> in collaboration with local groups, engage in activities that
>> challenge
>> human rights record and policies of the local government.
>>
>> This is not because governments should not be challenged on their
>> record, and it is not because local groups should not be
>> supported. It
>> is also not just because these issues should be sorted out prior to
>> venue selection. It is because delegates to ICANN meetings are in a
>> privileged position, and while public displays would probably not
>> put
>> delegates at risk, they would put local collaborators at risk,
>> especially after ICANN has left the scene.
>>
>> Sam Lanfranco
>>
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>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca <mailto:Lanfran at Yorku.ca> Skype: slanfranco
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> 邦有道，贫且贱焉，耻也。邦无道，富且贵焉，耻也
> ------------------------------------------------ Dr Sam Lanfranco
> (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario,
> CANADA - M3J 1P3 email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca <mailto:Lanfran at Yorku.ca>
> Skype: slanfranco blog: https://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
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