Recording and attendance: NCSG Open Policy Call
Mathias HOUNGBO
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Tue Apr 18 14:24:29 EEST 2017
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Le 18/04/2017 à 19:10, Maryam Bakoshi a écrit :
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> Dear all,
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> Please find recording and attendance of the Monthly Open Policy Call
> of today 18 April 2017. Transcript will be provided when it becomes
> available.
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> *Agenda:*Attached
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> *Attendance:*Attached
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> *Mp3*:
> https://icann.box.com/shared/static/001q3g7m4osk83nwu1zgutkyku67xhps.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]
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> *AC Chat:*
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> Maryam Bakoshi:Dear all, welcome to the NCSG Open Policy Call, on
> Tuesday 18 April 2017 at 1300 UTC
>
> Stephanie Perrin:Hi folks!
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> Maryam Bakoshi:welcome Stephanie
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> Maryam Bakoshi:Welcome all!
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> Louise Marie Hurel:Hi everyone!
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> Juan Manuel Rojas:Hi all
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Hello all, hope you all had a great Easter
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> Bruna Santos:Hello, everyone!
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> Joan Kerr:Hi Everyone
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> matthew shears:Hi all
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> Tapani Tarvainen:Hello all
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> Tapani Tarvainen:(I'm still trying to deal with post-Easter email
> flood... some 4000 new emails waiting when I got home yesterday)
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> James Gannon:Afternoon all
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> Maryam Bakoshi:Welcome everyone
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> Maryam Bakoshi:We will be starting shortly
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Thanks Maryam
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> Sam Lanfranco:Is this just quiet or am I having a sound problem?
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> James Gannon:Same
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> avri doria:are we waiting for our council memebrs to join?
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> Stephanie Perrin:No we are extra quiet this morning Sam.
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> Maryam Bakoshi:We are dialling out afik
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> Maryam Bakoshi:Please hold on
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> Maryam Bakoshi:thank you
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> Maryam Bakoshi:*Rafik
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> Stephanie Perrin:Must be a chocolate bunny hangover....
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> Tapani Tarvainen::-)
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> Tapani Tarvainen:Anyway, Rafik's chairing the call so we want him on
> before starting.
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> Maryam Bakoshi:Thanks for your patricne
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> Maryam Bakoshi:*patience
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> matthew shears:scroll control please
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> Malisa Richards:Greetings to all
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> Tapani
> Tarvainen:https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+20+April+2017
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> Rafik:https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/2017-April/019870.html
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> avri doria:( btw did we get apologies from all the council members
> not on this call ? )
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> Tapani Tarvainen:(I got a last-minute note from Ed - he's traveling
> right now)
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> James Gannon:I thought attendance at this call was mandatory for
> councillors?
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> Robin:It is.
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> avri doria:and half are accounted for. we are doiing well. not.
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> Tapani Tarvainen::-(
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> Robin:Only 2 of our 6 councilors are on the call? (Rafik and
> Stephanie) We need to do better.
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> Stephanie Perrin:Not to complain but the situation is aggravated by
> the fact that we are not consulting prior to the call....if someone is
> absent but has briefed the others on an area for which they have taken
> responsiblity, it is better. However, that is not happening at the
> moment, I will see if I can encourage more discussion on the list.
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> Martin Silva:Hi all, I was having problems to connect
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> Stephanie Perrin:Hi Martin, your timing is perfect, we are talking
> about INGO1
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> Martin Silva:Now 3 :-)
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> Martin Silva:perfect
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> Tapani Tarvainen:Ed did not bring it to the FC either
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> Martin Silva:I can help Stpeh with the Budget
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> Stephanie Perrin:Thanks Martin, lets listen to what happened and we
> can circulate on the list.
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> avri doria:The FC (financial Comm) is unable to draft
> comments? what does that mean?
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> Stephanie Perrin:I dont know but the deadlines are coming soon....
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Ed and Sam I suppose are on the Financial Comm
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> Tapani Tarvainen:Formally PC is supposed to draft all comments, FC
> just provide input
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> Stephanie Perrin:Maybe Same would like to draft the comments?
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> Stephanie Perrin:(that was Sam not same)
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> avri doria:ok, not that they couldn't, just tht they didn't
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> avri doria:tha is ok
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Noted Stephani
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> avri doria:Tapani, not, anyone can draft comments, only the PC can
> approve them as NCSG comments.
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> Tapani Tarvainen:yes of course FC could _draft_ comments, just that
> they should then send them to PC for approval
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> Tapani Tarvainen:exactly what I meant avri
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> Martin Silva 2:Just sent to the list the AC reconrding of the Bugdet
> webinar meeting with their PDF
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> avri doria:PC does not need to write all comments. FC writing
> comments on budget and submitting them to PC would have been excellent
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> Martin Silva 2:GNSO Webinar on ICANN's Draft FY18 Operating Plan &
> Budget held earlier, please find the AC recording and below and the
> slide deck attached. AC
> recording: https://participate.icann.org/p5lc7uinxzp/ The mp3 and
> transcript will be posted shortly on the GNSO Master calendar.
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> Juan Manuel Rojas:The GNSO Council nominates (in alphabetical
> order): Susan Kawaguchi, Erika Mann and Stephanie Perrin as its
> primary three candidates for the RDS-RT, noting that these candidates
> under the new ICANN Bylaws are entitled to be selected. Furthermore,
> the GNSO nominates, in ranked order: Volker Greimann, Marc Anderson,
> Stefania Milan and Timothy Chen to be considered for inclusion in the
> RDS-RT by the SO-AC Chairs should additional places be
> available.https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsocouncilmeetings_Motions-2B20-2BApril-2B2017&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=i5SwTVm21u4cYkNV8LdJiLBk7O1b-xx1Xnz7rlhHNHc&s=JdkYeNbzfUg5NyMPskii-yIHxbaksfIIyM_rh1j4pqk&e=
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> avri doria:i thought it was to be consensus based, not voting. confused
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> avri doria:so at this point there is not consensus
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> avri doria:thanks
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> Stephanie Perrin:Thanks for doing this, Ponce and Renata, sounds
> like a tough job taking lots of your time.
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Yes
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> Robin:Yes, thanks to Ponce and Renata for this.
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> Poncelet Ileleji:No Worries Stephanie, Voker will still get there as
> No 5
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Volker I meant, noted Robin also
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> avri doria:rememberin that this is still an experimental process,
> one comment we may wish to make at the right time, is that no one on
> SSC may stand for any task without first quitting SSC.
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> Stephanie Perrin:Volker is very good, in my view. Great on the RDS
> group.
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> Stephanie Perrin:Would you like us to propose that formally Avri?
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> James:That is not nessesarily the case. Did not happen on SSR2 no
> additional candidates were appointed.
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> Tapani Tarvainen:I seem to recall the council resolution had
> something about SSC members needing to recuse themselves in that case
> without resigining permanently
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> Stephanie Perrin:I agree that it makes sense, a temporary recusal on
> a process where you worked on the small group drafting, and then on
> the selection committee. does constitute a fair bit of influence.
>
> Tapani Tarvainen:Good point Steph.
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> Tapani Tarvainen:Marilia just apologized on the list for missing
> this call.
>
> James:Relevant from JUlj just now
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> James:With regards to my motion for item 7 on the agenda for our
> meeting on 20 April 2017 - "Approval of GNSO Nominees for the
> Registration Directory Services Review Team", please be aware that
> there is a possibility that the motion might be changed or withdrawn
> before our meeting.The draft motion is based on a "soft" consensus in
> the SSC, one where a deadline was set for any objections (rather than
> making sure we had positive agreements from all members).After that
> deadline, some issues were raised, and we are trying to resolve them,
> but in worst case a consensus can't be reached in time for our council
> meeting, in which case I will have to withdraw the motion.
>
> Stephanie Perrin:As usual, we are facing the situation where a few
> characters are doing a lot of the work....Susan K in particular was on
> the WHOIS review, the EWG, and is now a co-chair of the RDS PDP. She
> is certainly well qualified to sit on the WHOIS review, but due to her
> involvement on the SSC as well, it does seem like a lot of influence.
>
> Stephanie Perrin:So we need more active involvement from a broader
> range of people!!
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> Poncelet Ileleji:She recused herself from voting Stepanie and was
> replaced by another BC colleague
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> Tapani Tarvainen:I have to leave in a minute (another call), apologies
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> Stephanie Perrin:I know Poncelet, she acted quite correctly....it
> just seems like too much is being done by too few.
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> Poncelet Ileleji:I know
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> Tapani Tarvainen:(I'm hanging on but only on chat - audio on another
> call)
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> James:Tapani: Q regarding ICANN 59 scheduling, how is that progressing
>
> James:(As the planning seems to take place in a black box) Q was
> from Avri
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> Tapani Tarvainen:call about that right now
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> Tapani Tarvainen:Farzaneh is on the planning call too
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> Tapani Tarvainen:I think I could get extra ppl in next time - Avri
> are you volunteering?
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> Louise Marie Hurel:thanks for the update on the data commissioners,
> Stephanie
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> Stephanie Perrin:You are most welxome!
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> Robin:The DPA input is exactly what will be needed in Joburg to get
> this PDP structured right.
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Concurr Robin
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> Martin Silva 2:+1 Avri on the Geographical Names
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> Martin Silva 2:the ISO List that was incomplete, by far.
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> Akinremi Peter Taiwo:Hi all
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> avri doria:that is one of the folks reporting in the webinar.
>
> avri doria:that = UNCT as TLD
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Am Planning to Make a comment @Rafik.bullet pts 1
> also this week
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> avri doria:yas, i am on Staff Acct.
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> Rafik:@poncelet which comment?
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> Stephanie Perrin:the CCT one, I suspect?
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> Rafik:I thought he is volunteering for another one
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> avri doria:aand we have a list of issues - people should check it
> out : ( we are not at comments yet but trying to narrow donw the
> issues
> ) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_12ihFgBE5lcVTfiL6wft9MsOqHaSSKnzIDd1utROosNU_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=i5SwTVm21u4cYkNV8LdJiLBk7O1b-xx1Xnz7rlhHNHc&s=VUG08KD1NQ-OV71pQ9EDTaE23DjM58K-A8RkfBL-CNA&e=
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> Stephanie Perrin:yes! and we should draft Sam....
>
> Martin Silva 2:I don't have a pre-concived idea but I will work on
> it with Steph and whoever want's to listen.
>
> Stephanie Perrin:Me neither Martin....
>
> Robin:The old constituency statements!
>
> Rafik:we have to covert his one, we misse the previous one
>
> matthew shears:did we ever get answers from finance to the questions
> that aydent submitted to them on the budget?
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> matthew shears:Meant Ayden
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> Stephanie Perrin:I dont think so but lets try and draft him for this
> as well, he has been following it.
>
> Rafik:@matt they updated the
> page https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_fy18-2Dbudget-2D2017-2D03-2D08-2Den&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=i5SwTVm21u4cYkNV8LdJiLBk7O1b-xx1Xnz7rlhHNHc&s=ijq_VlRGmqvx0_ceRgWbeVBfXC_LIB7qpqBTmrOuCQ0&e=
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> Martin Silva 2:I can talk to Ayden
>
> Stephanie Perrin:Great!
>
> Tapani Tarvainen::-D
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> Martin Silva 2:I would love to, but the date is too close for me and
> already have more things I should for this week
>
> avri doria:a way to start is to volunteer to read it.
>
> avri doria:and to see the question that raises you pitch.
>
> avri doria:one thing that PC can do is have a PC member shepherd
> each review and that means creating the drive doc and tracking the work.
>
> Bruna Santos:Although im quite new to it, I can volunteer to (at
> least) read it!
>
> Juan Manuel Rojas:+1 on gTLD
>
> avri doria:it is easy to add a sentence to an existing doc, as long
> as the document exists and you read the report.
>
> Stephanie Perrin:That is a great idea Avri, spreads the workload. I
> am always happy to do a final grammar edit on anything, just not
> prepared to draft more at the moment....
>
> Robin:Thanks, Bruna.
>
> Juan Manuel Rojas:Ready to learn about....
>
> James:matthew shears: did we ever get answers from finance to the
> questions that aydent submitted to them on the budget?
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> James:Yes
>
> Malisa Richards:Im new but I volunteer to read it
>
> Bruna Santos:@robin, you're welcome! Im ready (and looking) foward
> to getting more active!
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> Rafik:please tell me which public comments you want to volunteer
>
> Robin:Thanks, Malisa. Reading these reports is always the first step.
>
> Malisa Richards:You're welcome
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> avri doria:reading the docs is a good first step. i expect that on
> reading you will find something that motivates you to further action.
>
> Rafik:@malisa tout va bien en guyane?
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> Malisa Richards:@Rafik, British Guyana
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> Stephanie Perrin:I agree Fik, this is why I raise these two....they
> look kind of boring and procedural but they are very important.
>
> matthew shears:Rafik - I will on Board changes
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> avri doria:some are even translated. for ecxampe CC2 is translated
> into 6
> langauges: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_cc2-2Dnew-2Dgtld-2Dsubsequent-2Dprocedures-2D2017-2D03-2D22-2Den&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=i5SwTVm21u4cYkNV8LdJiLBk7O1b-xx1Xnz7rlhHNHc&s=HO3XYRl170WbUS66JgVl5MFPBITBWGLBRiev7OWCxsY&e=
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> Ahmed Almarwani:me
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> Rafik:@ahmed for the deferral?
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> matthew shears:Happy to help on SO/AC accountability
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> Ahmed Almarwani:yes racism
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> Ahmed Almarwani:Yes @Rafik
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> James:Attendance of councillors on these calls is an issue =)
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> avri doria:but other attndance is good. and it is not not just
> council members, but all PC members.
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> James:Agree Rafik!
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> avri doria:we got a good number of people to attend that is a good
> thing.
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> avri doria:do we keep ttendance of PC memebrs attendance at these calls.
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> avri doria:will help us at future elections to know who particpates
> and who doesn't
>
> matthew shears:can the names of those who agreed to assist with the
> public comments be shared after the call - thanks
>
> Ahmed Almarwani:I can help in Deferral, but I will need support from
> you.
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> James:Matt I can help with BCG changes
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> James:ping me
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> matthew shears:thanks James
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> Bruna Santos:I have volunteered for the GNSO CC2
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> Juan Manuel Rojas:Me too
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> Poncelet Ileleji:Noted @Rafik
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> matthew shears:I also think the idea of a PC member sheparding these
> comments through a good one - lets implement it
>
> Martin Silva 2:thanks all!
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> avri doria:thanks all.
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> matthew shears:thanks
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> Bruna Santos:thanks !
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> James:Night Rafik!
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> Juan Manuel Rojas:Thanks all. See next
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> Stephanie Perrin:Thanks Fik!
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> Robin:Thanks, Rafik, bye all!
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> Sam Lanfranco:Bye, thanks....
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> Ahmed Almarwani:Thank you all
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> Arshad Mohammed:thank you..bye
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> Ahmed Almarwani:bye
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> Poncelet Ileleji:bye
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> Maryam Bakoshi: Good bye all
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> Maryam Bakoshi
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> T: +44 7737698036
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