Harassment and Helsinki

Ayden Férdeline icann at FERDELINE.COM
Fri Jun 24 12:51:19 EEST 2016


Lost for words. +1 to everything contributed by Avri, Milton, James, and
Tatiana.
- Ayden


On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 6:35 PM, James Gannon james at CYBERINVASION.NET wrote:
And ICANN does that extensively, the issue is that we are not running the
conference. There is a set of boundaries.



-JG









On 24/06/2016, 18:13, “NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Dorothy K. Gordon”
<NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of director-general at AITI-KACE.COM.GH>
wrote:



>From my experience in running conferences we often work closely with the police
ahead of time. This is so we are clear on all protocols that need to be followed
'in case'. Certainly the UN always works closely with the police and other
relevant security agencies for all major meetings. I do not see Edwards's
outreach as damaging. I just feel that we are not making progress here so
perhaps we drop the topic. We have so much work and the back and forth will not
change the past. There is an ongoing 'change process' these are never easy, some
mistakes will be made but hopefully one day we will get to where we want to be
which for me would be that meetings would be safe spaces. Please let us move on
and other interventions can be off-list.

>

>best

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>----- Original Message -----

>From: “Tatiana Tropina” <tatiana.tropina at GMAIL.COM>

>To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU

>Sent: Friday, 24 June, 2016 5:17:37 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia

>Subject: Re: Harassment and Helsinki

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>Good points, Avri and James. Fully agree.

>Best

>Tatiana

>On 24 Jun 2016 19:14, “James Gannon” < james at cyberinvasion.net > wrote:

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>I agree with Avri,

>This may have been in good intentions but goes way way beyond anything that our
representatives should be putting them selves into role wise, and personally I
also don’t feel that anyone has the right to make themselves an intermediary
between a person and the LE of a country, share relevant information and make
sure we are all aware and alert but I don’t agree with the path this has gone
down.

>

>-James

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>On 24/06/2016, 18:08, “NCSG-Discuss on behalf of avri doria” <
NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of avri at ACM.ORG > wrote:

>

>>On 24-Jun-16 08:24, Edward Morris wrote:

>>> I have made contact with the appropriate officers in the Helsinki

>>> Police Department

>>

>>

>>You went to the police?

>>

>>When no crime had been reported in Finland?

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>>I do not understand why someone would do this. And I am concerned that

>>assigning such a role to yourself not only opens you up to counter

>>charges, but starts to resemble vigilantism.

>>

>>The idea of a man setting himself as the address for vulnerable women

>>who feel they have been harassed concerns me, in and of itself.

>>

>>I do advise being careful in what powers you take upon yourself.

>>

>>Avri

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