Pre NCPH mtg Re: [] NCSG Policy meeting Friday 9th January 15:00UTC

Avri Doria avri at ACM.ORG
Wed Jan 7 11:47:16 EET 2015


Hi,

Perhaps those attending can gather the night before or at a breakfast
coordination chat. 
(I am sure the CSG folks will be doing that. If that matters)

And it could be a topic on Friday morning mtg (though I do not expect to
make it)

Since they work as unified front, whereas we allow for differences of
viewpoint, i think that our two different modalities will continue to
work just fine. 

Is the topic of the gnso review on the table - we might actually have
commonalities on that one. and some real differences.

avri

On 07-Jan-15 11:03, William Drake wrote:
> Hi Stephanie
>
> First of all a small apology folks, my morning message was intended
> for the NCSG PC list, but my mailer disagreed and I didn’t notice.
>  Hopefully the inside baseball and thinking out loud doesn’t confuse
> anything.
>
> Documents for next week’s NCPH meeting and the 2013 NCPH meeting are
> at https://community.icann.org/display/ncph/Meetings
>
> For background on prior NCSG-CSG interactions of concern as they
> relate to next week, much of that would be in peoples’ heads or
> personal mail folders, so it’s hard to provide pointers.  This is part
> of why I was suggesting we ought to try talking in advance.
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Stephanie Perrin
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree.  I for one am not ready although I worry about these things
>> a lot so expecting something.  If you could be so kind as to point me
>> to relevant history/records from other such meetings I would try to
>> prepare better. 
>> cheers SP
>> On 15-01-07 3:55 AM, William Drake wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Can I make a suggestion?  We are about to spend two full days with
>>> the CSG in DC, and per usual they have been strategizing and will
>>> come in with specific proposals/objectives, people responsible for
>>> leading on topics, an agenda for meetings with Fadi and Larry, etc.
>>>  We in contrast have had zero discussion to get our act together,
>>> and will be bringing a healthy complement of people who don’t have
>>> much if any background on intra-House dynamics and issues.  
>>>
>>> I don’t even know who all is coming on our side. What I’m aware of is
>>>
>>> /NCSG slots: EC/
>>> Rafik
>>> Matt
>>> Someone from NPOC—Rudi?
>>>
>>> /NCSG slots: Councilors/
>>> Avri
>>> Marilia
>>> Ed
>>> David
>>> Stephanie
>>> *Did we replace Amr with someone or just lose the slot?
>>>
>>> +Kathy Kleiman as the local unfunded traveler 
>>>
>>> /NCUC slots/
>>> Bill
>>> Stefania
>>> Joao
>>> Grace
>>> Peter
>>> Walid
>>>
>>> (no local unfunded traveler)
>>>
>>> /NPOC slots (I’m guessing)/
>>> Rudi
>>> Klaus
>>> Lori
>>> who else?
>>>
>>> So that we don’t get totally out-negotiated and also use the
>>> experience to strengthen intra-NCSG coordination, wouldn’t it make
>>> sense this one time to use the NCSG call to focus first on the DC
>>> meeting, and to try to ensure that as many attendees as possible
>>> participate in it?  Standard Council stuff could go second, and we
>>> also will have plenty of time together in DC if we want to talk more
>>> about the Council meeting.
>>>
>>> In sum, I’m proposing switching items II and IV on Rafik’s draft agenda.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Klaus,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the comments,
>>>> As I said, I am sorry for the short notice. since we have NPCH
>>>> meetings next week including Monday and Tuesday, the options were
>>>> to have or not have confcall in our usual day, tuesday. I think
>>>> having a call even like this would be helpful to prepare for the
>>>> GNSO confcall. 
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik 
>>>>
>>>> 2015-01-07 16:55 GMT+09:00 Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:kdrstoll at gmail.com>>:
>>>>
>>>>     Hello,
>>>>
>>>>     Sorry I will not be able to attend as I am on a trans Atlantic
>>>>     flight at this time. I also think that the very short notice is
>>>>     extremely unhelpful!
>>>>
>>>>     Yours
>>>>
>>>>     Klaus
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/7/2015 2:43 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>>     Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Please book in your calendar  at  Friday* 9th January 2015 at
>>>>>     15:00 UTC *for the NCSG conference call (Please click the link
>>>>>     to see meeting time in your time zone: http://bit.ly/1xWyYME
>>>>>     <http://tinyurl.com/l75vspl> )
>>>>>     we are holding the call exceptionally in Friday because of
>>>>>     non-contracted party meetings next week. I am really sorry for
>>>>>     the short notice. this call may be shorter than usual. 
>>>>>
>>>>>     Everybody is encouraged to attend. We usually cover:
>>>>>     - the GNSO council call agenda  and discussing its items .
>>>>>     Councillors and NCSG members involved in related working group
>>>>>     will give more insight about the motions
>>>>>     - Updates about ongoing policies: updates from working groups,
>>>>>     statements , open public comments and discussing
>>>>>     how NCSG should act.
>>>>>     - Any other relevant item 
>>>>>
>>>>>     _Why it is important to attend?_
>>>>>     _
>>>>>     _
>>>>>     it is good opportunity, happening monthly, to catch-up with
>>>>>     the ongoing policies and finding opportunities to volunteer
>>>>>     for some tasks. For newcomers to get snapshot of activities
>>>>>     within NCSG , GNSO and ICANN, and  also interacting with GNSO
>>>>>     councillors .
>>>>>
>>>>>     *We have this initial draft agenda below, please send me any
>>>>>     other suggestion for item you would like to add e.g. AOB . I
>>>>>     will send a reminder again 24 hours prior to the call.*
>>>>>
>>>>>     *_*Draft Discussion Agenda: *_*
>>>>>     _https://community.icann.org/x/YY8QAw_
>>>>>     *I.    Roll-call *
>>>>>     *II.   15th January GNSO Meeting Preparation*
>>>>>     _https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/GNSO+Council+Meeting+2015-01-15_
>>>>>      A.  GNSO councillors will attend the call and brief to the
>>>>>     membership about the GNSO call agenda items.
>>>>>      B.  Discussion Items 
>>>>>     *III.   Quick Update on ICANN policies*
>>>>>     ** Working Groups / Panels/ Expert groups e.g. (non exhaustive
>>>>>     list)* 
>>>>>     IANA Stewardship transition cross-community Working
>>>>>     Group, Proxy and Privacy accreditation,  Expert Working Group,
>>>>>     GNSO review working party etc
>>>>>     A- Cross Community Working Group on Accountability. 
>>>>>     B- IANA Stewardship transition cross-community Working Group
>>>>>     ** Open Comment Periods *
>>>>>       See:  http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment
>>>>>
>>>>>     *IV.  AOB*
>>>>>     A- Non-contracted party house meeting information*
>>>>>     *
>>>>>         
>>>>>     Looking forward to interact with our members next week. If you
>>>>>     need dial-out or you don't find your country listed below,
>>>>>     please send email off-list to Maryam (maryam.bakoshi at icann.org
>>>>>     <mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>) and she will assist you. 
>>>>>
>>>>>     Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Rafik Dammak
>>>>>
>>>>>     NCSG chair
>>>>>
>>>>>     =========================================================================================
>>>>>     *_
>>>>>     _*
>>>>>     *_Remote participation details_*
>>>>>     Please find the AC room, passcode and dial in details below
>>>>>     (it is also here https://community.icann.org/x/Bh7xAg)
>>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>     *Adobe Connect
>>>>>     room*: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/_a819976787/ncsg/?launcher=false
>>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>     *Passcodes/Pin codes:*
>>>>>     Participant passcode: NCSG PC
>>>>>
>>>>>     *For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join
>>>>>     the conference.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>> ***********************************************
>>> William J. Drake
>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, 
>>>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org/>
>>> william.drake at uzh.ch
>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>>>   www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>>> ***********************************************
>>>
>>
>
> ***********************************************
> William J. Drake
> International Fellow & Lecturer
>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, 
>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
> william.drake at uzh.ch
> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com
> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
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