[Comment] NCSG draft statement for CCWG on IANA transition proposal

[Amr Elsadr]

Hi Seun,

I also cannot support a statement that isn’t insistent on separability being maintained as part of the stewardship transition. I say “maintained”, because this option already exists under the current stewardship model with the NTIA.

So when you say that the current cwg-stewardship proposal is introducing a complication, I find that statement to be factually inaccurate. The proposal is to simply replace one steward with another, and maintain separability as an accountability method imposed on the IANA administrator by the steward.

Thanks.

Amr

On Dec 17, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Hello Avri,
> 
> Thanks i understand that the ICANN accountability implementation process may take some time, however i see think this transition could be an opportunity to expedite the process and it is with that motives that i added those text.
> 
> I will like to believe that everyone here is insisting on separability simply because there is no adequate accountability within the organisation. So my text is simply trying to say ".....we believe an internal to ICANN will be more efficient however due to the lack of adequate accountability we will support the current proposal"
> 
> I don't want to believe that we all don't see the complications that will be introduced by the implementation of the current cwg-stewardship proposal? 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I think your edits are incompatible with the previous sense of the statement.
> 
> I would not be able to support a statement that supported ICANN gaining permanent unreversable and inseparable control of the IANA contract as you seem to be suggesting.  I do not beleive there is any change the Accountabilty effort could make that would give the degree of accountabilty that separability bring.  There is much to be done in ICANN accountability to make sure it is and stays fit  for holding the contract, but that will not be enough for permanent merging of the IANA function into ICANN.
> 
> 
> avri
> 
> 
> On 17-Dec-14 11:01, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>> Hello Rafik,
>> 
>> Thanks for your mail. Although i don't necessarily agree with all the wordings in that draft(and i have noticed reluctance for re-wording), however i think i can roughly agree with it with the few edits i just made.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> we discussed in yesterday call  (find the recordings and transcripts beloww) the IANA transition working group proposal and the draft NCSG comment (https://docs.google.com/document/d/14mDNLW17CJ_7rHSprzSAW90jhzPjlMiJf8qkbRM_Lek/edit?usp=sharing) .
>>  The NCSG statement was sent previously to the NCSG members list and several comments were added and resolved. the current version was sent to NCSG policy committee for review and endorsement. we have to submit the comment by 22nd Dec.
>> Thanks to those who worked in the comment and supported it.
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> 2014-12-17 21:13 GMT+09:00 Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> Please find attached and below the AC chat, transcript and MP3 recording of the NCSG Open call (Update on CCWG on IANA Transition) held on Tuesday, 16 December 2014. 
>> 
>> MP3 recording:  https://icann.box.com/shared/static/me2byrhudtqk36n3j0c4.mp3
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>> 
>> Attendance: Rafik Dammak, Avri Doria, Stephanie Perrin, Milton Mueller, Amr Elsadr, Matthieu Camus, Robin Gross, David Cake, Bill Drake, Matthew Shears, Akinremi Peter Taiwo, Marilia Maciel, Robert Njathika
>> 
>> You can also find the recordings/info of this meeting and others at this link on the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Open+%28Update%29+Meetings
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>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> -- 
>> Maryam Bakoshi
>> 
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>> Seun Ojedeji,
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>> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
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> Seun Ojedeji,
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> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
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