[NCSG-EL-REF] None of the Above

Tue Jun 27 00:54:06 EEST 2017

its a long discuss Grace,

I will suggest you go to the archives and read, maybe Tapani can give a
brief summary on it

Thanks

Poncelet

On 26 June 2017 at 22:51, Grace Mutung'u <nmutungu at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
> For purposes of understanding the problem, would someone please explain
> .....What mischief was being cured by including the NOTA? Was it to
> encourage people to offer their candidacy, thereby avoiding only one
> candidate? Or was it simply to give people a chance to express themselves
> on candidacies, including those who were unopposed?
>
>
> 2017-06-27 0:46 GMT+03:00 Poncelet Ileleji via Election-reform <
> election-reform at lists.ncsg.is>:
>
>> Hi Robin,
>>
>> I total concur with your suggestion, it makes things easier and can even
>> be adopted at all our constituency level.
>>
>> Brilliant suggestion to me +1
>>
>> Poncelet
>>
>> On 26 June 2017 at 18:12, Robin Gross via Election-reform <
>> election-reform at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Tapani.  I think we may want to approach this from a different
>>> angle.  Instead of trying to come up with an interpretation for NOTA, let’s
>>> come up with a mechanism that clearly achieves our goal.  It probably isn’t
>>> even called “NOTA”.
>>>
>>> What we are actually after is a way to make sure that every candidate
>>> faces a Yes or No option, so someone can’t win by default, and there must
>>> actually be *approval* of the candidate by the membership to be our
>>> representative.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to device that goal in the ballot?  Perhaps simply
>>> a yes-no-abstain choice for each candidate would suffice?  Then the x
>>> candidates with the most yes votes are winners (as long as they have more
>>> yes than no votes).  We would need a procedure for how to handle the
>>> theoretical case in which there isn’t enough candidates approved by the
>>> membership to fill slots, but that is easily devised.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Tapani Tarvainen via Election-reform <
>>> election-reform at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to get some feedback on the charter requirements.
>>>
>>> As you see there's no mention of NotA there. I can think
>>> of three ways to interpret it:
>>>
>>> A. The charter does not allow NotA at all.
>>>
>>> B. NotA can be considered a candidate.
>>>
>>> C. NotA can be thought of as allowed implicitly, by default,
>>>   as most elections in general have something like it.
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> Other interpretations I haven't thought of?
>>>
>>> Tapani
>>>
>>> On Jun 26 11:00, Tapani Tarvainen via Election-reform (
>>> election-reform at lists.ncsg.is) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> As time is running short, I think it's better to start with
>>> potentially most difficult issues and ones that *must* be
>>> resolved before the netx elections. So let's have a go at NotA.
>>>
>>> Initially I have two criteria I think must be met:
>>>
>>> (1) Compatibility with our charter, at least some reasonable
>>> interpretation of it.
>>>
>>> (2) Clarity. It should be easy to understand what the rules
>>> actually mean in any foreseeable situation.
>>>
>>> Feel free to suggest additions or comment on those.
>>>
>>> Regarding the first, here's the most relevant part of our Charter:
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.3 Election for NCSG GNSO Council Representatives (size, number, and
>>> distribution of votes):
>>>
>>> In the discussion below, N refers to the number of seats that need to
>>> be elected. Optimally N will equal 3 seats in years with normal
>>> rotation. Any number of reasons can cause this number to vary.
>>>
>>> • NCSG members classified as “individuals” will be given N votes and
>>> must assign 1 vote to each of N candidates.
>>>
>>> • NCSG members classified as “small organizations” will be given 2N
>>> votes and must assign exactly 2 votes to each of N candidates.
>>>
>>> • NCSG members classified as “large organizations” will be given 4N
>>> votes and must assign exactly 4 votes to each of N candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.4 Election of NCSG Chair (size and number of votes):
>>>
>>> • NCSG members classified as “individuals” will be given 1 vote.
>>>
>>> • NCSG members classified as “small organizations” will be given 2
>>> votes.
>>>
>>> • NCSG members classified as “large organizations” will be given 4
>>> votes.
>>>
>>> • Members must cast all their votes for a single candidate.
>>>
>>>
>>> The full charter is here, feel free to point out other things
>>> there you think are relevant:
>>>
>>> https://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/ncsg-charter-05may11-en.pdf
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>
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