<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I think the council has now decided not to include the letter. So I guess that leaves us to send it to the board ourselves?<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Tomslin</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 02:49, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:Kathy@kathykleiman.com">Kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Manju,</p>
    <p>This is disappointing, but not surprising. Tx to you and our
      other Councilors for the trying to hold a fair and balanced line
      here. <i><br>
      </i></p>
    <p><i>Can I ask whether the Council will include our entire NCSG
        letter of objection to their response - or do they want to
        select parts of it? </i><br>
    </p>
    <p>If Council is willing to including our NCSG objection - whatever
      terms <i>we</i><i> would like to include in the Council letter </i>-
      with a clear and prominent reference to our NCSG letter of
      objection as an appendix-  then would it make it easier for the
      Board to see our concerns?   One place, one document to read (?)</p>
    <p>Of course, if the Council wants to edit our letter, then sending
      it separately makes sense.  Also perhaps there are advantages to
      sending it separately that I may not be seeing. <br>
    </p>
    <p>But the overall issue - that sending a few well-known,
      very-opinionated, and frankly extreme (on this issue) Councilors
      to the GAC (not including Manju, of course!) without guidance from
      the GNSO Community is a distortion and misuse of the policy
      development process.</p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 4/21/2022 10:30 PM, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi all, </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thought
          it's worth it to report back to you that our objection to the
          dialogue was acknowledged but brushed aside by the Council
          chair. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I would
          be optimistic and say that we still have many chances to voice
          our opinions during the latter process, the first step being
          broadening the dialogue to include more stakeholders within
          the GNSO, not limited to Councilors. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Attached
          is the Council's draft response to the Board. There are
          discussions going on about whether the NCSG's letter of
          objection should be included in the response. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">My
          personal opinion is opt-out of being included in the Council's
          response and send our letter to the Board ourselves. But I'd
          like to know what you think. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Council
            plans to send out the response by the Board Workshop next
            week so we'll have to respond before April 27th 1200 UTC
            (Wednesday).</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
          </div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Any
            suggestions are welcome!</div>
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          </div>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Manju</div>
          <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 7:38
          AM Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div>Hi,</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">I think the argument that will be used to
              respond to the idea of public comment is : councillors are
              representing their SG/C and are supposed to bring their
              input. </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Moreover in more practical matter, we are
              raising issues about discussing this issue with GAC but
              public comment means another group like ALAC would be
              involved.  Any wider discussion should be then done within
              PDP and not through ad-hoc approach. I can see there might
              be some possible alignment with ALAC in the topic (just an
              assumption) but I would object to open the door just for
              tactical gain.<br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">If we fail to stop the process, the next
              step would be to discuss the rules of engagement and scope
              for any discussion.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Best.</div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Rafik </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 14, 2022,
                  00:59 Kathy Kleiman via NCSG-SubPro <<a href="mailto:ncsg-subpro@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-subpro@lists.ncsg.is</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <p>Hi Manju,</p>
                    <p>Great letter and great edits by Bruna.  I edited
                      a few small things and then pulled out and
                      expanded our "ask" - that we would like the GNSO
                      Council to hold a comment period to provide input
                      and guidance to this small group of individuals
                      appointed to talk to the GAC (should our excellent
                      and well-founded objections to the process be
                      overruled).  This will provide a way for the GNSO
                      Council to know the issues/concerns/hopes o the
                      GNSO Community on this matter - and to provide
                      clear input  and guidance to the the small
                      Committee for the negotiations that may lie
                      ahead.  <br>
                    </p>
                    <p>Here's the paragraph - building on opening
                      sentences of Manju and edits of Bruna:</p>
                    <p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" id="gmail-m_-6623018635100056681gmail-m_-609274424477439503gmail-m_-5948031751832471517gmail-m_-5041452649685370881m_-1602612356452412869docs-internal-guid-9aef857f-7fff-c200-dc13-819b6f387813">We strongly support as the </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">first step that the GNSO Council seek public comment from the community on how to proceed with Closed Generics, as opposed to having a ‘closed dialogue’ with the GAC where the scope and interlocutors of such dialogue is dictated by the ICANN Board.  This input will provide the Council with issues and concerns of the GNSO Community.  The Council, in turn, can provide guidance to the members of the Council who will be leading this discussion - should it occur despite our deep concerns for Multistakeholder process and precedent. How else will this small team - some with very, very long-held personal views on the subject - be bound to a discussion on behalf of the entire GNSO Community? </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></p>
                    <p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I recommend putting the paragraph in bold for those who tend to scan their email.  </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">
</span></p>
                    <p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Best, Kathy</span></p>
                    <p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">
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                    <p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span>On
                      4/11/2022 11:04 PM, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:</p>
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                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
                          all,</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">As
                          discussed per yesterday's policy call, I've
                          drafted our formal response to be sent to the
                          Council (and the Board?)</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">You
                          can find the statement here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing</a></div>
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                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Feedbacks
                          and suggestions are welcome and will be highly
                          appreciated!</div>
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                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Manju</div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr
                          11, 2022 at 10:22 AM 陳曼茹 Manju Chen <<a href="mailto:manju@nii.org.tw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manju@nii.org.tw</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
                              Tomslin and all,</div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kurt
                              and others obviously wanted it to be
                              discussed in the Council meeting this
                              week.</div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Steve
                              has suggested if that was the intent we
                              could propose a late motion. I think NCSG
                              is not in a hurry about this, so I'll let
                              others handle it if they want to propose
                              the motion. </div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I
                              can share more details and answer
                              questions today later during our policy
                              call.</div>
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                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div>
                            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Manju</div>
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                            </div>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat,
                              Apr 9, 2022 at 4:08 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar
                              <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Hi Manju,</div>
                                <div>Thank you so much for the update.
                                  Nice strategy there with the small
                                  team representation. Do you know when
                                  that deferral will be brought to the
                                  council's attention? Or maybe I missed
                                  it in my hundreds of emails.<br>
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                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          again.<br>
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                                                          Tomslin</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                  Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 08:18, 陳曼茹 Manju
                                  Chen <<a href="mailto:manju@nii.org.tw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manju@nii.org.tw</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi
                                      team,</div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Borrowing
                                      this thread to report back to you
                                      about what happened in the small
                                      team. </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">So
                                      as you might have guessed, I was
                                      the only one saying no to the
                                      'facilitated dialogue'. Jeff,
                                      Paul, and Kurt were eager to dive
                                      into the discussion of how we
                                      engage with GAC in this
                                      'facilitated dialogue' but
                                      thankfully they still respected
                                      our objection. My first point of
                                      objection is that the small team
                                      is really not representative
                                      enough to make the decision of
                                      whether the Council should meet
                                      with the GAC. For now, we agreed
                                      to refer this back to the Council
                                      and make the decision at the
                                      Council level. </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I'm
                                      afraid though NCSG would be the
                                      only one saying no when we're at
                                      the Council level. Also when this
                                      pops up, we really have to have
                                      our statement ready explaining why
                                      we're saying no. I've put notes in
                                      the document Tomslin created and
                                      Kathy has been extremely helpful
                                      by providing reference material
                                      and edits: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing</a> </div>
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                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">We
                                      will still need to phrase them
                                      into a formal statement, but I
                                      think it'd be an easy task now we
                                      have all the contents. </div>
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                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div>
                                    <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Manju</div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                      Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 9:08 AM
                                      Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      <div dir="auto">Hi team,
                                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div dir="auto">I just wanted to
                                          call your attention to this
                                          response we promised to put
                                          together on the board proposed
                                          dialogue between GAC and
                                          Council on closed generics.
                                          The Council small team is
                                          about to be activated to start
                                          deliberations and I believe <span class="gmail_chip gmail_plusreply" dir="auto"><a href="mailto:manju@nii.org.tw" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);text-decoration:underline" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">@陳曼茹
                                              Manju Chen</a></span><span> who
                                            is representing us there
                                            hopes to rely on the
                                            response we pen down to
                                            guide her contribution to
                                            that team. </span></div>
                                        <div dir="auto"><span><br>
                                          </span></div>
                                        <div dir="auto"><span>In
                                            this regard, can I request
                                            that we find some time to
                                            please put our ideas down on
                                            the Google form</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing</a></div>
                                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div dir="auto">Looking forward
                                          to your help with this. In the
                                          meantime, i'll review my
                                          meeting notes and put down
                                          some feedback we got during
                                          our policy call on the
                                          document. </div>
                                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                                          <div dir="auto">Warmly, <br>
                                            Tomslin</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed,
                                            16 Mar 2022, 22:25 Tomslin
                                            Samme-Nlar, <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">
                                              <div dir="ltr">Hi all,</div>
                                              <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>As a follow-up to my
                                                previous email regarding
                                                the board's proposed
                                                facilitated dialogue
                                                between GAC and GNSO
                                                council, I have created
                                                this Google doc [ <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing</a>
                                                ] to capture our
                                                response to this
                                                proposal in the form of
                                                a letter to the council
                                                small team on Closed
                                                Generics.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Inputs to the
                                                document are welcomed
                                                and for your
                                                convenience, attached
                                                again is the letter from
                                                the board and the
                                                accompanying framing
                                                paper.<br>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards,<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Tomslin</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                                  Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at
                                                  08:12, Tomslin
                                                  Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer
                                                    noreferrer" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div>Dear everyone,</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Here is the
                                                      framing paper on
                                                      the board's
                                                      proposed dialogue
                                                      between GNSO
                                                      Council and the
                                                      GAC on Closed
                                                      Generics that was
                                                      promised.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Comments are
                                                      welcomed. I will
                                                      also be sending a
                                                      separate email
                                                      with a link to the
                                                      Google doc where
                                                      we intend to draft
                                                      a letter as a
                                                      response to this.<br>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards,<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Tomslin</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>
                                                          From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Wendy
                                                          Profit via
                                                          Gnso-chairs</b>
                                                          <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>></span><br>
                                                          Date: Fri, 11
                                                          Mar 2022 at
                                                          04:33<br>
                                                          Subject:
                                                          [gnso-chairs]
[CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Manal Ismail and Philippe Fouquart
                                                          - GAC-GNSO
                                                          Consultation
                                                          on Closed
                                                          Generics<br>
                                                          To: <a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>>,
                                                          Manal Ismail
                                                          <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>,
                                                          <a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>>,
                                                          <a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                          Cc: Secretary
                                                          <<a href="mailto:secretary@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">secretary@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          Correspondence
                                                          <<a href="mailto:Correspondence@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Correspondence@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          Board Ops Team
                                                          <<a href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          GACSTAFF <<a href="mailto:gac-staff@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gac-staff@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          Maarten
                                                          Botterman <<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer
                                                          noreferrer" target="_blank">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Dear Manal
                                                          and Philippe,</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p><span>Pursuant
                                                          to the letter
                                                          sent recently
                                                          (6 March 2022,
                                                          attached for
                                                          reference), we
                                                          are now
                                                          forwarding the
                                                          associated
                                                          framework
                                                          paper entitled
                                                          “</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Board-Facilitated
                                                          Process for a
                                                          GAC - GNSO
                                                          Council
                                                          Dialogue on
                                                          Closed
                                                          Generics”<span>,
                                                          also attached.</span></span></p>
                                                          <p><span><b><span> </span></b></span></p>
                                                          <p><span>Thank
                                                          you and best
                                                          regards,</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Wendy Profit</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">ICANN</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Board Operations Senior Manager</span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Los Angeles, CA 90094</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p><span> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Wendy
                                                          Profit <<a href="mailto:wendy.profit@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wendy.profit@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Date: </b>Sunday,
                                                          March 6, 2022
                                                          at 3:58 PM<br>
                                                          <b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>"
                                                          <<a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>>,
                                                          "<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>"
                                                          <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>,
                                                          "<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>"
                                                          <<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Cc: </b>Maarten
                                                          Botterman <<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer
                                                          noreferrer" target="_blank">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>>,
                                                          "<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>"
                                                          <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          GACSTAFF <<a href="mailto:gac-staff@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gac-staff@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          "<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>"
                                                          <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          ICANN Board
                                                          Ops <<a href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          Correspondence
                                                          <<a href="mailto:Correspondence@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Correspondence@icann.org</a>>,
                                                          Secretary <<a href="mailto:secretary@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">secretary@icann.org</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject: </b>[CORRESPONDENCE]
                                                          Maarten
                                                          Botterman to
                                                          Manal Ismail
                                                          and Philippe
                                                          Fouquart -
                                                          GAC-GNSO
                                                          Consultation
                                                          on Closed
                                                          Generics</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Dear Manal
                                                          and Philippe,</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Please
                                                          find the
                                                          attached
                                                          letter from
                                                          ICANN Chair
                                                          Maarten
                                                          Botterman
                                                          regarding a
                                                          proposed
                                                          formal
                                                          consultation
                                                          between the
                                                          GAC and GNSO
                                                          Council on how
                                                          to handle the
                                                          subject of
                                                          closed
                                                          generics in
                                                          gTLD
                                                          applications.</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Thank you
                                                          and best
                                                          regards,</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Wendy Profit</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">ICANN</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Board Operations Senior Manager</span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Los Angeles, CA 90094</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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