<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Hi Kathy,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">The Council has formed a small team and charged it with the task of coming up with suggestions for the next step. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I guess you can think of this small team as having the responsibility of requesting input from their respective groups?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">The members of the small team are <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Paul McGrady, Kurt Pritz, Jeff Neuman, Justine Chew, and me. </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">So you can see how we really have to hold our fort on this one, and I'm counting on the statement we agreed to put together as a cheat sheet so I deliver our points loud and clear.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">The small team is scheduled to meet next week. I'll listen to our policy call again to note down our points. In the meantime, I'd really appreciate more insights from those of you who have extensive knowledge of closed generics and GAC/GNSO dialogue on Red Cross.</div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Manju</div><br></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 20:39 Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Tomslin,</p>
    <p>I thought the Council was going to go through a period of
      requesting some input. Has that changed?</p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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    <div>On 3/30/2022 9:08 PM, Tomslin
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        <div dir="auto">I just wanted to call your attention to this
          response we promised to put together on the board proposed
          dialogue between GAC and Council on closed generics. The
          Council small team is about to be activated to start
          deliberations and I believe <span class="gmail_chip gmail_plusreply" dir="auto"><a href="mailto:manju@nii.org.tw" style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">@陳曼茹 Manju Chen</a></span><span> who
            is representing us there hopes to rely on the response we
            pen down to guide her contribution to that team. </span></div>
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        <div dir="auto"><span>In this regard, can I request that we find
            some time to please put our ideas down on the Google form</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing</a></div>
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        <div dir="auto">Looking forward to your help with this. In the
          meantime, i'll review my meeting notes and put down some
          feedback we got during our policy call on the document. </div>
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          <div dir="auto">Warmly, <br>
            Tomslin</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, 22:25
            Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>
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              <div>As a follow-up to my previous email regarding the
                board's proposed facilitated dialogue between GAC and
                GNSO council, I have created this Google doc [ <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing</a>
                ] to capture our response to this proposal in the form
                of a letter to the council small team on Closed
                Generics.</div>
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              <div>Inputs to the document are welcomed and for your
                convenience, attached again is the letter from the board
                and the accompanying framing paper.<br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at
                  08:12, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>
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                    <div>Dear everyone,</div>
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                    <div>Here is the framing paper on the board's
                      proposed dialogue between GNSO Council and the GAC
                      on Closed Generics that was promised.</div>
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                    <div>Comments are welcomed. I will also be sending a
                      separate email with a link to the Google doc where
                      we intend to draft a letter as a response to this.<br>
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                            Forwarded message ---------<br>
                            From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Wendy Profit via Gnso-chairs</b>
                            <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>></span><br>
                            Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 04:33<br>
                            Subject: [gnso-chairs] [CORRESPONDENCE]
                            Maarten Botterman to Manal Ismail and
                            Philippe Fouquart - GAC-GNSO Consultation on
                            Closed Generics<br>
                            To: <a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>>,
                            Manal Ismail <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>,
                            <a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>>,
                            <a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>><br>
                            Cc: Secretary <<a href="mailto:secretary@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">secretary@icann.org</a>>,
                            Correspondence <<a href="mailto:Correspondence@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Correspondence@icann.org</a>>,
                            Board Ops Team <<a href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>,
                            <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>,
                            GACSTAFF <<a href="mailto:gac-staff@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gac-staff@icann.org</a>>,
                            Maarten Botterman <<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>><br>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Manal and Philippe,</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                              <p><span>Pursuant to the letter
                                  sent recently (6 March 2022, attached
                                  for reference), we are now forwarding
                                  the associated framework paper
                                  entitled “</span><span>Board-Facilitated Process
                                  for a GAC - GNSO Council Dialogue on
                                  Closed Generics”<span>, also attached.</span></span></p>
                              <p><span><b><span> </span></b></span></p>
                              <p><span>Thank you and best
                                  regards,</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Wendy Profit</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">ICANN</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Board
                                  Operations Senior Manager</span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">12025
                                    Waterfront Drive, Suite 300</a></span></p><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">
                                </a><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">Los Angeles,
                                    CA 90094</a></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                              <p><span> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Wendy Profit
                                    <<a href="mailto:wendy.profit@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">wendy.profit@icann.org</a>><br>
                                    <b>Date: </b>Sunday, March 6, 2022
                                    at 3:58 PM<br>
                                    <b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>"
                                    <<a href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>>,
                                    "<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>"
                                    <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>,
                                    "<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>"
                                    <<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>><br>
                                    <b>Cc: </b>Maarten Botterman <<a href="mailto:maarten.botterman@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>>,
                                    "<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>"
                                    <<a href="mailto:gnso-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>>,
                                    GACSTAFF <<a href="mailto:gac-staff@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gac-staff@icann.org</a>>,
                                    "<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>"
                                    <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>,
                                    ICANN Board Ops <<a href="mailto:board-ops-team@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>,
                                    Correspondence <<a href="mailto:Correspondence@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Correspondence@icann.org</a>>,
                                    Secretary <<a href="mailto:secretary@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">secretary@icann.org</a>><br>
                                    <b>Subject: </b>[CORRESPONDENCE]
                                    Maarten Botterman to Manal Ismail
                                    and Philippe Fouquart - GAC-GNSO
                                    Consultation on Closed Generics</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Manal and Philippe,</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Please find the attached
                                  letter from ICANN Chair Maarten
                                  Botterman regarding a proposed formal
                                  consultation between the GAC and GNSO
                                  Council on how to handle the subject
                                  of closed generics in gTLD
                                  applications.</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank you and best
                                  regards,</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Wendy Profit</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">ICANN</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Board
                                  Operations Senior Manager</span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">12025
                                    Waterfront Drive, Suite 300</a></span></p><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">
                                </a><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/12025%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Waterfront+Drive,+Suite+300+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Los+Angeles,%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++CA+90094?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">Los Angeles,
                                    CA 90094</a></span></p>
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