<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><p>Thank you, Rafik, for the reminder.</p><p>I echo the views of Bruna and Michaela. We should avoid turning the ICANN meeting into a forum for discussing geopolitical issues. While those issues are necessary, we must prioritize and focus on internal, domestic matters, specifically DNS abuse, the Review of Review, UDRP, and other core policy topics.</p><p>A session dedicated to the Review of Review would be beneficial. However, given its importance, I would encourage <b>t</b>wo focused and well-coordinated sessions to ensure the team can effectively manage the workload, allow for robust community feedback, and community input.</p></div><div class="gmail_default" style="">Kind regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="">Peter</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 5:17 AM Michaela Nakayama Shapiro via NCSG-PC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Agreed with DNS abuse being a topic of importance—both because of the upcoming PDPs (to emphasize the importance of HRIAs throughout the PDP), but also to discuss gaps identified by the GNSO Small Team that were not listed as priority for PDPs but that we as
the NCSG would want to see prioritized in future PDPs. </div>
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I don’t have a strong position on the Geopolitical Forum, but I do think having two Geopolitical sessions—one during the prep week AND during ICANN itself—as they’ve done previously, is redundant. Having just one during ICANN itself, per
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@Bruna Martins dos Santos</a>’s suggestion, would be a better option in my opinion.</div>
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<b>To: </b>Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Bruna for the comments</div>
<div dir="ltr">so it is ok to have one session on review of reviews but for the second we can propose different topic such as DNS abuse.</div>
<div dir="ltr">so we oppose moving the geopolitical forum to prep week.</div>
<div dir="ltr">@everyone any other comments? the deadline is today Friday 21st Nov</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 18 nov. 2025 à 18:22, Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_quote">I have full support for a session on the review of review for Community session 1, but not a lot of clarity on what could be the session #2. Perhaps something related to DNS Abuse in light of the incoming PDP ? Although I
think the PDP could've possibly have started then, it would be important to hold an information session like the one in Dublin. <br>
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As for the Geopolitical Forum, i dont support it being part of the prep week. This has become a great space for ICANN Org to report on its interactions w/ member-states and some of their efforts in current regulations around the globe and I think that moving
it to prep week might imply that the session has less relevance than before. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_quote">But these are just some initial thoughts. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_quote">Best,</div>
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<li dir="ltr">Community Sessions 1 & 2: Do you support scheduling a session on the Review of Reviews for Community Session 1? What other topics would you like to see discussion at the second Community Session, or would you rather see just the one Community
Session on the schedule?</li><li dir="ltr">Do you support holding the Geopolitical Forum virtually as part of Prep Week for ICANN85?</li></ul>
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There is also a question if we have suggestions about planning and structuring the new Board-Community discussion session.</div>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">Dear all,</p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">Thank you to those who joined the ICANN84 Feedback & ICANN85 Kick Off call held earlier today.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">For those who could not make it, please find the recording
<a href="https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/_md_DoewpJ-dqSNoAEWZZxzNP5Xmy1b0YiQ0eCxbnBcu7s2NF9E4VW0XJctzYcOpzGK1nyKm63yW1oiC.HIVkG8JMZnYtdAWG" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px" target="_blank">
here</a> and the Block Schedule and Production timeline attached to this email.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">A second Production call will be scheduled very shortly.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">Please find here below a summary of what was said during the call, followed by action items for SOAC leadership:</p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal"><b>Feedback on ICANN84:</b></p>
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<li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">A scheduling conflict with a key ICANN org session of direct interest to ccTLD managers was raised by the ccNSO. Further communication and collaboration will be put in place to minimize the risk of this happening again.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">A lack of coffee being served was noted for the last coffee break of the last day of the meeting, this will be relayed to our staff supporting catering.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">A screen in one of the meeting rooms was too small for participants to read in the room, this has been noted by the Production team.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">Appreciation was shared by those on the call for Meetings team and Travel for their efforts to procuring a venue at late notice and making the meeting a success</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">Support was shown for the ICANN85 Welcome Reception (gala) and for these taking place offsite when possible.</li></ul>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal"><b>Review of the proposed draft ICANN85 Block Schedule:</b></p>
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<li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">The new addition of a pilot for a ICANN Board & Community Discussion to the block schedule (as a concrete outcome of the How We Meet project) saw a discussion on its structure and purpose. Several participants were in
favour of it being topic-based, rather than open questions to the Board. It was understood that this session will not replace the current joint SOAC meetings with the Board. There was a suggestion to hold this new session at the Policy Forum when there are
no bilateral meetings with the Board.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">The addition of a series of 2026 Next Round Info sessions, based on the anticipated timing of the launch of the next round of new gTLDs, was noted without objection.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">The ccNSO raised the issue of set time blocks for Tech Day (Monday), this will be discussed with the ccNSO directly.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">The option of having the Geopolitical Forum take place during Prep Week with a focus on interactive exchanges for the onsite meeting was also discussed.</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">Little time was left for the discussion on the Community Sessions (topics and whether to hold one or two) but the suggestion was made to have at least one of the sessions focus on the Review of Reviews.</li></ul>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal"><b>REQUEST</b>: We seek your feedback and suggestions on the following questions:</p>
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<li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">Community Sessions 1 & 2: Do you support scheduling a session on the Review of Reviews for Community Session 1? What other topics would you like to see discussion at the second Community Session, or would you rather see
just the one Community Session on the schedule?</li><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0in">Do you support holding the Geopolitical Forum virtually as part of Prep Week for ICANN85?</li></ul>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">We will greatly appreciate your feedback on these questions by Friday 21 November if possible. In addition, if you have suggestions for how we can plan and structure the new Board-Community Discussion
session, we will be grateful to receive those as well. Thank you!</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p>
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<p dir="ltr" class="MsoNormal">Nathalie, on behalf of the Schedule team</p>
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