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I think a dedicated mailing list to exchange ideas and discuss would be hugely helpful. You have my full support to kickstart it ASAP.</div>
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I also was not aware of the RySG DNS abuse list, and would love to be added if possible.
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@farzaneh badii</a> and I both worked with Dennis to organize sessions on DNS abuse and human rights, and he's been a great ally on this work.</div>
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<b>To:</b> ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is>; farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NCSG-PC] Fwd: DNS Abuse PDP Cooperation</font>
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<div dir="auto">Beth followed up on the discussion we had at the joint session and asking here about setting dedicated mailing list and meeting. Let me know what you think. I do believe we can proceed with this and Kickstart asap.</div>
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<div dir="auto"><span class="x_gmail_chip x_gmail_plusreply" dir="auto"><a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" style="color:#15c; text-decoration:underline">@farzaneh badii</a></span><span> you worked with Dennis, are you in that RySG DNS abuse list?</span></div>
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I hope your travel home from ICANN was smooth. After our discussions at ICANN, I wanted to follow up to try to establish a plan for collaboration between our groups on the DNS Abuse PDPs. Soon Council will have an updated Issues Report and Charter that reflects
the Public Comments. It would be great to have some collaboration set up as those discussions get started. </div>
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We are happy to set up a dedicated email list as well as meetings with our RySG DNS Abuse Working Group (and hopefully the joint CPH DNS Abuse Group) and your dedicated DNS Abuse Working Groups or teams. Please let us know what will work best for you and your
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