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<p>Hi Tomslin, Pedro and All,</p>
<p>I want to strongly support Pedro on this important email. When
we started the RPM PDP WG - Phase 1 (2016), we had the advantage
of a objective and neutral study by data scientists of the
Analysis Group on the Trademark Clearinghouse (see link below).
Having this study completely changed the discussion of the PDP
Working Group from "I like the TMCH" or "I don't like the TMCH" to
a combined group inquiry into whether this neutral data showed us
that the Trademark Clearinghouse was or was not operating
according to the policy we adopted as the GNSO, Board and ICANN
Community" A much more productive discussion!</p>
<p>With almost 100,000 cases UDRP just for gTLDs, now is the time
for us to dive into the data! <i>Truly, how can we conduct a
data-driven review for the GNSO Council in this PDP WG without
it? </i>Let me agree with what Pedro wrote below: <b><<Possibly
hiring an external party to go deep into evaluating the data
already available (decisions, mostly) and conducting a few
interviews with relevant actors to the UDRP ecosystem would be
the ideal choice of resources.>> </b>Perhaps we don't need
all 25 years, but certainly a study of the last 10 to 15 years,
would be very, very helpful to ensure that this UDRP -- so long
delayed -- is conducted with independent and neutral data. </p>
<p>To help such an independent study:</p>
<p></p>
<p>- All UDRP decisions for gTLDs are public -- and easily
accessible. </p>
<p>- Conducting interviews with relevant actors would be key, as
Pedro writes, and I would add, interviewing registrants,
particularly those who tried to reach out to WIPO for help and
were unable still to file a official response. Did they
understand what they needed to do? What would have made it easier
for them to respond fully and tell their story to the Panelists?</p>
<p>- The researchers could examine Defaults - why are there so many
defaults? Are Registrants receiving notice in languages they
understand and is the timeline sufficient for them to prepare a
response? One thing we might explore: Given that we are told not
to click on links from parties we don't know, have Registrants who
defaulted ever heard of WIPO? Would it help for the notice to
come from a party they know and trust? </p>
<p>- They could check the Panelists -- are Panelists unbiased and
also are they giving the UDRP case the full and quick review we
were promised? <i>In 1999, we (ICANN) asked all registrants for
gTLDs to waive "personal jurisdiction" -- the protections that
protect our freedom and our property (like domain names) from
being removed without a trial in our local court, in a language
we know, with a set of legal customs we know. </i></p>
<p><i>When we knew these protections would be stripped away,
Noncommercials in 1999 fought very, very hard for the current
rule<b>: Default (not showing up and filing in the UDRP
proceeding) <u>would not equal loss</u>. </b></i>Because we
knew that given the global nature of the Internet (and for the
reasons above), many Registrants would not be able to respond. <i>But
do the UDRP tribunals, like WIPO, act fully and fairly for both
sides of a gTLD dispute? </i></p>
<p></p>
<p>Some fair, neutral and objective data would help us understand
and conduct a full and fair review for registrants.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Every SG and AC will have their own questions - and the Analysis
Group for the Trademark Clearinghouse (TMCH) Study for Phase 1
asked everyone for input and questions before starting their
valuable work! </p>
<p>****</p>
<p><b>Finally, as Pedro also writes: we have to avoid taking the
WIPO-ICA report "as the sole basis for the beginning of the
work." </b>You will hear that WIPO and ICA have already done
the work for us -- WIPO, the BC and the IPC. They haven't! First,
all are lawyers, and second ICA has members in both the BC and
IPC. </p>
<p><i>But we represent registrants around the world who have not
have heard of WIPO or the UDRP and cannot find Internet lawyers
in their regions or communities, or afford their expensive
services -- yet for noncommercial registrants, their domain
names are critical for the sharing of their speech, activities
and services with their communities and around the world. </i></p>
<p><b>We have the opportunity: </b>The Council Prioritization
Working Document says, under RPM Description: At some point prior
to reinitiating this work, a Charter drafting team will need to be
convened. However, that step does not preclude additional data
gathering and analysis happening prior."</p>
<p><b>"However, that step does not preclude additional data
gathering and analysis happening prior."</b></p>
<p>Perfect! Could our NCSG Councilors ask for this "additional data
gathering and analysis" before we start RPM PDP WG - Phase 2?
Just as in Phase 1, independent and objective data will allow us
to engage in data-driven analysis and review! </p>
<p>Best and tx,</p>
<p>Kathy</p>
<p>p.s. Here's the report described above -- commissioned before we
started Phase 1 and presented to us when we started our work<b>: </b>Independent
Review of Trademark Clearinghouse (TMCH) Services,
<b> </b>Draft Report,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/draft-services-review-25jul16-en.pdf">https://newgtlds.icann.org/sites/default/files/draft-services-review-25jul16-en.pdf</a> </p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/2025 7:33 AM, Pedro de
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<div>Hi Tomslin, all,</div>
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<div>For the UDRP, it would be to produce data to subsidize the
UDRP review, especially the charter, to avoid taking the
UDRP-ICA report as the sole basis for the beginning of the
work. Something similar to what was done with the other RPMs,
to identify shortcomings and topics that are working well.
Possibly hiring an external party to go deep into evaluating
the data already available (decisions, mostly) and conducting
a few interviews with relevant actors to the UDRP ecosystem
would be the ideal choice of resources. It could also be
fruitful to partner up with UDRP operators so they can message
the users of the system to ask for feedback, if that is
possible, considering data privacy regulations.</div>
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<div>We also don't have a report from the ICANN community about
domain suspensions/takedowns, do we? Something along the lines
of what has been the increase during the last few years, what
are the origins, what are the countries that have laws or
other norms that foresee this capacity, etc. This would also
be interesting to have.</div>
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<div>Cordially,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em seg., 13 de out. de 2025 às
08:18, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a
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<div>Hi PC,</div>
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<div dir="auto">If you remember, last month the FC asked us
what our priorities for 2026 are. When we met, we came up
with the following list:</div>
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<ul>
<li>Review of Reviews </li>
<li>DNS Abuse & HRIA </li>
<li>Next Round of gTLDs</li>
<li>HRIAs </li>
<li>Objection processes/GAC requests</li>
<li>Urgent Requests/ RDRS</li>
<li>Domain suspensions/takedowns </li>
<li>Grants Program - review </li>
<li>Outreaches</li>
<li>UDRP </li>
</ul>
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<div dir="auto">The follow-up questions from the FC that we
also have to answer are, out of the above list,</div>
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<ul>
<li>1. What specific programs or initiatives do we
recommend funding or initiating to support the group's
objectives with regard to policy issues?</li>
<li>2. What are the expected outcomes for each program
or initiative?</li>
<li>3. What is the kind of resources requested for those
initiatives</li>
</ul>
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<div dir="auto">Can I ask that all PC members (not only
councillors) give these questions a thought and suggest
some ideas on this list which we will collect, refine and
present to the whole NCSG before passing it unto the FC?</div>
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<div dir="auto">We have a slot in Dublin to discuss the
inputs collected, so please please send through your
inputs on this list before we meet, to allow us have a
good and fruitful discussion with outcomes.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I am looking forward to your inputs.</div>
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<div>Remain blessed, <br>
Tomslin</div>
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17:05 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <<a
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<div>Hi Rafik,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks for sharing. We will try to
discuss each of the questions during our PC meeting
later today. I am sure since it will be early morning
for some, they will be seeing the questions for the
first time during the meeting. So, we might have to
continue the discussion on email after the initial
discussion on the call today.</div>
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<div>Remain blessed, <br>
Tomslin</div>
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16:56 Rafik Dammak, <<a
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div dir="auto">NCSG Finance Committee want to
share those questions for PC consideration to
understand about policy priorities and what we
want in term of resources so using that requests
into ICANN budget for FY26</div>
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<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Rafik </div>
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