<div dir="auto">Hi Kathy, all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bolu has updated the draft. Please take a look and provide feedback.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Warmly, <br>Tomslin</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, 10:52 Kathy Kleiman, <<a href="mailto:Kathy@kathykleiman.com">Kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Tx Tomslin, your email certainly woke me up! I'm glad that you
have already asked Bolu to make some major changes to the
comment. All good :-). <br>
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<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div>Thank you. This email was to serve as a wake up request for
the PC to review the document because there hasn't been any
comment from the team here regarding the document which I
shared on the NCSG list.</div>
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<div>I did send Bolu a parallel email to the PC one, asking him
to integrate the comments that were given during the PC
meeting to the document and for him to modify the format.<br>
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<p><< Hi team, is this okay to submit? </p>
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<p>I'm afraid I do not understand our draft NCSG comment.
Bolu seems to be responding to the four questions that
commenters raised in the first round of comments. Now, in
this second round of comments, ICANN asks us to respond to
a <i>different set of questions. (Pasted below)<br>
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<p>If I read it correctly, Bolu is repeating what ICANN
Staff has told us in this Terms of Reference Draft, but
not commenting on whether we (NCSG) agree, support,
express concerns, etc. It's not enough to summarize what
Staff has presented. <br>
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<p><b><i>Could we ask someone to work with him, e.g. Pedro?
Could someone else from NCSG PC take a close look? </i></b><br>
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<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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==> [Kathy cutting and pasting from current ICANN comment
notice]<br>
<p>"The primary focus of the Pilot Holistic Review Draft
Terms of Reference (ToR) is to address the four primary
issues raised during the first Public Comment proceeding:</p>
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<li>The scope of Holistic Review is unclear</li>
<li>There is a lack of independent examination in the
Holistic Review</li>
<li>There is a lack of identified dependencies</li>
<li>The community might not have the ability to support
the Pilot Holistic Review work</li>
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<p>The ToR Development Team also shortened and revised the
ToR document to include more direct language and clearer
deliverables.</p>
<p>Considering the potential implications on the ICANN
structures and work, the Board is seeking input on whether
the revised Draft ToR seems fit for purpose, and whether
it sufficiently addresses the issues identified in the
first Public Comment proceeding.</p>
<p>The following questions are designed to aid responders in
formulating their views:</p>
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<li>Do you support the Pilot Holistic Review Revised Terms
of Reference as drafted?</li>
<li>Does the Pilot Holistic Review Revised Terms of
Reference sufficiently address the four primary issues
identified in the first Public Comment proceeding?</li>
<li>Does the Pilot Holistic Review Revised Terms of
Reference sufficiently clarify the deliverables for the
Pilot Holistic Review?</li>
<li>Do you support the next steps for the Pilot Holistic
Review (as noted below)?"</li>
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to the NCSG draft comment that Bolu is leading <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxiw_roMyfKOKd200KiUfQSR8ODgLIuNujsmeT_yDqc/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hxiw_roMyfKOKd200KiUfQSR8ODgLIuNujsmeT_yDqc/edit?usp=sharing</a>
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<div dir="auto">Dear all,
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<div dir="auto">The ICANN Board is seeking the
community input on the proposed Pilot Holistic
Review Revised Draft Terms of Reference. This
is a review of interest to NCSG, so it would
be great to have members volunteer to draft a
comment for our SG. </div>
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<div dir="auto">The public comment is due on 27
November 2023, so if you'd like to volunteer,
please reach out.</div>
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comment can be found from the below link:</div>
<div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/pilot-holistic-review-revised-terms-of-reference-tor-28-09-2023" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/pilot-holistic-review-revised-terms-of-reference-tor-28-09-2023</a><br>
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