<div dir="auto">Hey all, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m going to open a disagreement here because I don’t think it is fair to exclude wider NCSG leadership - aka NCSG EC members - from this opportunity. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have taken part of the Leadership Training before and as the name says it’s something that trains upcoming or incoming leadership from communities. It’s not a policy exclusive program that would justify using the slots exclusively for PC members. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I understand that we need to bring in more people to the PC leadership role but I wouldn’t use this training as an opportunity for doing so. And would not like for us to take the chance of attending this training away from current NCSG EC members if any of them would also like to attend. Plus here I truly believe it’s a decision that Julf should make instead of PC. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Apologies for disagreeing w/ the suggested approach. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards, </div><div dir="auto">Bruna </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Wisdom Donkor <<a href="mailto:wisdom.dk@gmail.com">wisdom.dk@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Sa. 4. Nov. 2023 um 07:13:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">No objection from me</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 4 Nov 2023, 4:55 am Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Hi Juan, all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I gave this a bit of further thought. I realised in the past, it was pretty straightforward because the criteria was simply NCSG leadership to attend.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the same way, to avoid an unnecessary very complex process, I recommend we limit the criteria to Policy Committee leadership. Another reason for limiting it to leadership is for it to act as incentive to encourage members who would otherwise not be interested in PC leadership to consider it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">NCSG charter allows for a chair and 2 vice-chairs in PC leadership. We currently have only one vice-chair because no one else was interested.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Following my proposal above, in terms of eligibility for this LP seat, only myself and the vice-chair, Peter Akinremi are eligible. As current chair, I naturally would love for vice-chairs to be confident enough to become chair, despite the fact that there hasn't been any precedent of this. NCSG struggled to have someone volunteer to be PC chair after Rafik. That is not something I'd like to see repeating. So, my proposal is for the current vice-chair (Akinremi Peter) to take this LP seat that has been offered to the PC.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Can members let me know if they object to this proposal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Warmly, <br>Tomslin</div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 4 Nov 2023, 01:18 Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC, <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Dear Tomslin and all, <br><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I'd like to suggest Wisdom Donkor as a candidate to be on the LP 2024, if he hadn't the chance before. <br></div></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div id="m_-857699340965432679m_3900550381373792211m_-7877699263016201570ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_28423" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><b style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.</b><br style="color:rgb(69,69,69)"></span><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><font style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:inherit;color:rgb(128,128,128)" size="2" face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span id="m_-857699340965432679m_3900550381373792211m_-7877699263016201570ydpbc80bd55yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1467397914851_29214" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Director - 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El jueves, 2 de noviembre de 2023, 08:39:12 a. m. GMT-5, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <<a href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>> escribió:
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<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div id="m_-857699340965432679m_3900550381373792211m_-7877699263016201570yiv5106866686" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">For me, I would suggest you attend as the current policy chair except we can get the new PC chair elected before the deadline. <div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Regards </div></div><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div id="m_-857699340965432679m_3900550381373792211m_-7877699263016201570yiv5106866686yqtfd57640" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, 1:43 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Hi team,<div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">The PC has been asked to select someone to attend the above program from PC leadership. I was hoping we'd elect a new PC leadership before making the decision but unfortunately the deadline to submit a name for this is Wednesday, 15 November 2023. How do you all suggest we go about this?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Warmly, <br clear="none">Tomslin</div></div></div><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, 03:29 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I get it now. Makes sense.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Warmly, <br clear="none">Tomslin</div></div><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, 02:40 Johan Helsingius, <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Typically it would be the incoming NCSG chair, but when a chair gets<br clear="none">
re-elected, someone else in our (future) leadership should get<br clear="none">
to do it - PC chair, for example.<br clear="none">
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On 09/10/2023 22:03, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:<br clear="none">
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> Is your expectation that someone from the PC will be selected? Since I <br clear="none">
> don't believe the PC has made a selection for this before.<br clear="none">
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> Warmly,<br clear="none">
> Tomslin<br clear="none">
> @LinkedIn: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/</a> <br clear="none">
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> Subject: Invitation - RSVP - ICANN Leadership Program (LP) 2024<br clear="none">
> Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:43:28 +0000<br clear="none">
> From: Public Responsibility Support <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:prs@icann.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">prs@icann.org</a><br clear="none">
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> To: Johan Helsingius <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">julf@julf.com</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">julf@julf.com</a>>><br clear="none">
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> Glandon <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>>>,<br clear="none">
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> It was great having you join us for the 2023 ICANN Academy Leadership<br clear="none">
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> We are now preparing for the 8^th edition of the LP, which is<br clear="none">
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> start of ICANN79 in San Juan, Puerto Rico.<br clear="none">
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> For this program, one seat is reserved for a representative from the<br clear="none">
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> ICANN as an organization, the topics discussed within ICANN, and<br clear="none">
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> incoming leaders, but sometimes also for experienced leaders. ICANN and<br clear="none">
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