<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Tomslin<div>Thanks so much. Glad it is submitted </div><div><br></div><div>Best </div><div>Judith <br><div><br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Just closing the loop on this. I have submitted the NCSG comment. Thank you Judith and everyone who contributed to the comment.<br></div>

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    <p>HI Stephanie/ Tomslin<br>
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    <p>Not sure if you saw my comment, so I am pasting it here.</p>
    <p>There is a new rule that when the NomCom terms are changed to 2
      years instead of 1, the delegate must wait 2 years to go back on
      NomCom.  So it would only be 5 years (2 on nomcom and 3 on the
      standing committee) at the most. That is why I said that the
      standing committee terms should not be consecutive. We need new
      blood.  I think that helps explain why I am fine with 3 years on
      the standing committee and no consecutive terms</p>
    <p>I think if someone has served 2 years waits 2 year and then
      serves another 2 years that is fine.  Or in the case of the
      standing committee. Serves 3 years and then waits 2 years again
      before serving again, that is also fine . It may not happen since
      there is no funding for standing committee members, so they do not
      travel. <br>
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    <p>I think this change is easier to make the changing the terms of
      the standing committee</p>
    <p>Otherwise I think it is good to go. Manju is happy already <br>
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    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Judith<br>
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    <div>On 5/31/23 10:48 PM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
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            Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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              <p>Thanks for taking some of my suggestions Judith....I
                added a few more edits to tighten it; my only
                substantive query now is on three year terms for the
                standing committee.  Seems too long, there are plenty of
                candidates for the standing committee, we dont need
                folks who have already served on NomCom for four years
                hanging around another 3?  I think 2 is lots....</p>
              <p>cheers and many thanks for all this hard work!</p>
              <p>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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                <p>HI Tomslin,</p>
                <p>I have resolved all the comments and also added in
                  some phrasing to answer the questions raised by the
                  persons who commented on the document and it is now
                  ready to go.  Let me know what else you want or need
                  to do before this gets ratified by the NCSG
                  councillors</p>
                <p>Best,</p>
                <p>Judith<br>
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3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
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                <div>On 5/29/23 12:24 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">Hi and thanks again, Judith.
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                    <div dir="auto">The process is this: once the
                      penholdet (you) has addressed all comments with
                      the contributors,  the PC normally takes a final
                      look at it before the NCSG PC chair (me) submits
                      the comment on behalf of NCSG. </div>
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                    <div dir="auto">Seeing that we don't have time for
                      another whole of PC review on this one, I will
                      rely on the collaboration effort between yourself
                      and the other NCSG members who are contributing to
                      the comment (most of which are PC members) as
                      endorsement. <br>
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                      <div dir="auto">Warmly, <br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 29 May
                      2023, 06:59 Judith Hellerstein, <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>>
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                        <p>HI Tomslin,</p>
                        <p>I accepted some of the changes but could not
                          accept Rafik's as he is not understanding how
                          the NomCom Operates and what they are
                          recommending.  I have added in replies to his
                          comments to explain them and hope this helps</p>
                        <p>Here again is the link. <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Once Rafik has read this and accepted it, I
                          can resolve all the comments and submit it. 
                          Do let me know what is the process. I believe
                          we will have a one-day extension since
                          tomorrow is a holiday in the US and ICANN
                          usually does not have comments due on the
                          holiday as US staff are off. <br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Best,</p>
                        <p>Judith<br>
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Hellerstein & Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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                        <div>On 5/28/23 9:29 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
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                            <div>There are some comments on the document
                              you shared. Can you please reconcile them?<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 25
                              May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>>
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                                <p>HI Juan,</p>
                                <p>I would have loved to include
                                  something about it and in fact wrote
                                  something up, but was told since this
                                  item was pulled from the Public
                                  Comment we could not address it here. 
                                  We have to address this issue in both
                                  NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to
                                  Sally directly<br>
                                </p>
                                <p>That was why I pulled it from the
                                  draft statement.  In a public comment,
                                  we can only comment on what is written
                                  and not an item that has been
                                  withdrawn. Please correct me if I was
                                  wrong</p>
                                <p>Best,</p>
                                <p>Judith<br>
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Hellerstein & Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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                                <div>On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel
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                                              <p>I would like to add
                                                something on this
                                                review. I believe that
                                                in the same comment, we
                                                should also address the
                                                situation of NPOC, as
                                                this comment is
                                                regarding NomCom
                                                rebalance. <br>
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                                              <p>Best regards,</p>
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                                      <div> El martes, 23 de mayo de
                                        2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5,
                                        Tomslin Samme-Nlar <a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><mesumbeslin@gmail.com></a>
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                                            <div>Dear PC,</div>
                                            <div><br>
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                                            <div>Below is a draft to the
                                              Public Comments on NomCom
                                              Review that closes on May
                                              29 (Monday next week)
                                              drafted by Judith
                                              Hellerstein and Peter
                                              Akinremi. Please provide
                                              your urgent comments to
                                              the draft by midnight UTC
                                              on Thursday 25th May.<br>
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                                                          <div>Warmly,<br>
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                                                          Tomslin
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                                                  Forwarded message
                                                  ---------<br>
                                                  From: <b>Judith
                                                    Hellerstein</b> <span><<a rel="nofollow
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                                                  Date: Wed, 24 May 2023
                                                  at 00:08<br>
                                                  Subject: Re: Public
                                                  Comments on NomCom
                                                  Review closes on May
                                                  29<br>
                                                  To: Caleb Olumuyiwa
                                                  Ogundele <<a rel="nofollow
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                                                  Cc: Johan Helsingius
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                                                  Peter Taiwo <<a rel="nofollow
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                                                  <p>Hi Caleb,</p>
                                                  <p>Here is the draft
                                                    comment that I
                                                    propose to send out
                                                    for to the various
                                                    Policy teams within
                                                    the NCSG for
                                                    comment.  I do not
                                                    know who is on the
                                                    PC FO to send it to
                                                    so please can you
                                                    send this to them
                                                    for me. Also not
                                                    sure of your
                                                    particular style or
                                                    not.<br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p><a rel="nofollow
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                                                  <p>Peter and I have
                                                    editing writes, but
                                                    everyone has
                                                    commenting rights. 
                                                    What we might want
                                                    to do if we run out
                                                    of time before the
                                                    deadline is to post
                                                    a draft first and
                                                    then replace it with
                                                    the approved and
                                                    ratified one later</p>
                                                  <p>I am interested in
                                                    seeing your opinion
                                                    on this <br>
                                                  </p>
                                                  <p>Best,</p>
                                                  <p>Judith<br>
                                                  </p>
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Hellerstein & Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
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                                                  <div>On 5/22/23 9:25
                                                    PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa
                                                    Ogundele wrote:<br>
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                                                    <div>Hi Judith,
                                                      <div><br>
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                                                      <div>Thank you for
                                                        coming up with
                                                        this.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Since we have
                                                        a short
                                                        timeline, can we
                                                        put the draft in
                                                        a google doc and
                                                        ask that you
                                                        share it with
                                                        the PC FO input
                                                        and feedback.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>One thing we
                                                        can request
                                                        through the PC
                                                        is ask them to
                                                        write ICANN for
                                                        a little
                                                        extension as it
                                                        takes the entire
                                                        PC a while to
                                                        provide feedback
                                                        and ratify
                                                        public comments
                                                        that  represents
                                                        the NCSG's
                                                        views.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
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                                                      <div>Happy to see
                                                        <span><a rel="nofollow
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                                                          Peter Taiwo</a></span><span> joining
                                                          you to take a
                                                          lead on this.</span></div>
                                                      <div><span>I'm
                                                          sure he can
                                                          provide you
                                                          with some NCSG
                                                          perspective to
                                                          support the
                                                          arguments that
                                                          will be put
                                                          forward. </span></div>
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                                                      <div><span>Caleb </span></div>
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                                                        Mon, May 22,
                                                        2023, 2:38 PM
                                                        Judith
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                                                          <p>HI All,</p>
                                                          <p>Good talk
                                                          on today's
                                                          NCSG Call.
                                                          Caleb, thanks
                                                          for clarifying
                                                          that Stephanie
                                                          and you are
                                                          only
                                                          collaborating
                                                          on the NomCom
                                                          Rebalancing
                                                          letter that
                                                          Interim CEO
                                                          Sally
                                                          Costerton sent
                                                          to all
                                                          constituencies. 
                                                          I suggested
                                                          that we draft
                                                          a statement in
                                                          response to
                                                          the public
                                                          comment on the
                                                          NomCom Review,
                                                          and will be
                                                          happy to be
                                                          the Pen
                                                          Holder.
                                                          Basically,
                                                          there are 4
                                                          questions they
                                                          are asking us
                                                          to comment
                                                          upon.  Public
                                                          Comments are
                                                          due May 29,
                                                          2023. I have
                                                          also cc'd my
                                                          fellow NomCom
                                                          rep, Peter
                                                          Taiwo as he
                                                          also suggested
                                                          he was
                                                          interested in
                                                          helping draft.
                                                          <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>1) Our
                                                          Input on the
                                                          Fundamental
                                                          Bylaws
                                                          amendment
                                                          proposed for
                                                          Article 7 of
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          Bylaws and the
                                                          related
                                                          proposed
                                                          statement
                                                          defining
                                                          “Unaffiliated”
                                                          Directors?</p>
                                                          <p>2) Our
                                                          Input on the
                                                          proposed
                                                          Standard
                                                          Bylaws
                                                          amendments
                                                          proposed to
                                                          Article 8 of
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          Bylaws as well
                                                          as the
                                                          Transition
                                                          Clause<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>    Change
                                                          NomCom
                                                          delegates’
                                                          terms to serve
                                                          two-year
                                                          terms, instead
                                                          of one year.<br>
                                                              Transform
                                                          all NomCom
                                                          delegates into
                                                          voting
                                                          delegates to
                                                          be able to
                                                          vote, except
                                                          for
                                                          leadership.<br>
                                                              Create a
                                                          NomCom
                                                          Standing
                                                          Committee to
                                                          provide
                                                          continuity
                                                          across annual
                                                          NomCom cycles
                                                          and to build
                                                          the
                                                          institutional
                                                          memory of the
                                                          NomCom.<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p> 3) Our
                                                          Input on the
                                                          NomCom
                                                          Standing
                                                          Committee
                                                          Charter?  <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>4) Our
                                                          input on the
                                                          required
                                                          changes to
                                                          their RSSAC
                                                          bylaws to
                                                          allow them to
                                                          accept a
                                                          voting slot
                                                          instead of the
                                                          current
                                                          non-voting
                                                          slot</p>
                                                          <p>Here is a
                                                          PowerPoint
                                                          slide
                                                          describing
                                                          these
                                                          changes.  Only
                                                          contentious
                                                          issue is the
                                                          definition of
                                                          unaffiliated
                                                          Directors <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>Best,</p>
                                                          <p>Judith
                                                          Hellerstein <br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <pre>_________________________________________________________________________
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Hellerstein & Associates
3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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                                                          <div>On
                                                          5/22/23 7:33
                                                          AM, Johan
                                                          Helsingius
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          think the GNSO
                                                          decision not
                                                          to go there
                                                          was longer
                                                          than 6 months
                                                          ago. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                              Julf <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 21/05/2023
                                                          16:55, Judith
                                                          Hellerstein
                                                          wrote: <br>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">Hi
                                                          Julf, <br>
                                                          Apparently it
                                                          is too late
                                                          for this,
                                                          which is
                                                          really sad. I
                                                          was told the
                                                          time to have
                                                          done this
                                                          negotiation
                                                          was several
                                                          months ago
                                                          before the
                                                          GNSO rejected
                                                          these ideas. 
                                                          Sorry but I
                                                          had not been
                                                          focusing on
                                                          these issues 6
                                                          months ago. 
                                                          The suggestion
                                                          that was in
                                                          the original
                                                          public comment
                                                          was what the
                                                          review
                                                          committee had
                                                          suggested so
                                                          that the GNSO
                                                          could decide
                                                          for itself but
                                                          apparently
                                                          according to
                                                          CLO, groups
                                                          within the
                                                          GNSO heavily
                                                          resisted this
                                                          change and
                                                          that was why
                                                          the board/
                                                          review
                                                          committee took
                                                          back part of
                                                          the review. . 
                                                          ALAC was for
                                                          it and wanted
                                                          to see this
                                                          rebalancing
                                                          but the review
                                                          committee and
                                                          Board got too
                                                          much flack
                                                          from people
                                                          within the
                                                          GNSO so they
                                                          had to pull
                                                          even this
                                                          simple
                                                          adjustment. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Our best shot
                                                          is the letter
                                                          to sally
                                                          however, even
                                                          with the
                                                          letter it is
                                                          unlikely to
                                                          happen again
                                                          until 5 years.
                                                          Maybe the NCSG
                                                          can take back
                                                          the slot from
                                                          the NCUC as
                                                          the only
                                                          reason it was
                                                          not given to
                                                          the NCSG was
                                                          because NPOC
                                                          and the NCSG
                                                          had not
                                                          existed when
                                                          these slots
                                                          were first
                                                          created. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I have not
                                                          heard from
                                                          Stephanie
                                                          about the
                                                          comments on
                                                          the NomCom
                                                          Review.   Has
                                                          one been
                                                          created.  If
                                                          not, I can
                                                          pass you
                                                          forward the
                                                          one myself and
                                                          Yrjo are
                                                          writing for
                                                          ALAC. The only
                                                          contested
                                                          issue not
                                                          decided is the
                                                          definition of
                                                          unaffiliated
                                                          and what that
                                                          means and
                                                          entail.
                                                          Otherwise,
                                                          What I have
                                                          written have
                                                          been accepted
                                                          by the ALAC. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Best, <br>
                                                          Judith <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Sent from my
                                                          iPad <br>
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