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<p>HI All,</p>
<p>I just saw on the Public Comment page that ICANN has extended the
Comment Period through June 11. It said Comments are closed on
June 12. <br>
</p>
<p>I have added and reorganized the section on the new NomCom
Standing Committee and added in some of the concerns that
Stephanie and Rafik had. Our concerns were on the charter, the
terms and the powers of the standing committee. So hope I have
addressed all these concerns.</p>
<p>Also the creation of the standing committee is under questions 2
and not 3. Question 3 is about the Charter itself. So have
reorganized our comment to follow those lines</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/29/23 12:24 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar
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<div dir="auto">Hi and thanks again, Judith.
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<div dir="auto">The process is this: once the penholdet (you)
has addressed all comments with the contributors, the PC
normally takes a final look at it before the NCSG PC chair
(me) submits the comment on behalf of NCSG. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Seeing that we don't have time for another whole
of PC review on this one, I will rely on the collaboration
effort between yourself and the other NCSG members who are
contributing to the comment (most of which are PC members) as
endorsement. <br>
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<p>HI Tomslin,</p>
<p>I accepted some of the changes but could not accept
Rafik's as he is not understanding how the NomCom Operates
and what they are recommending. I have added in replies
to his comments to explain them and hope this helps</p>
<p>Here again is the link. <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing"
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<p>Once Rafik has read this and accepted it, I can resolve
all the comments and submit it. Do let me know what is
the process. I believe we will have a one-day extension
since tomorrow is a holiday in the US and ICANN usually
does not have comments due on the holiday as US staff are
off. <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
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<div>On 5/28/23 9:29 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:<br>
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<div>There are some comments on the document you shared.
Can you please reconcile them?<br>
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<p>HI Juan,</p>
<p>I would have loved to include something about it
and in fact wrote something up, but was told since
this item was pulled from the Public Comment we
could not address it here. We have to address
this issue in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments
to Sally directly<br>
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<p>That was why I pulled it from the draft
statement. In a public comment, we can only
comment on what is written and not an item that
has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was
wrong</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I would like to add something on
this review. I believe that in the
same comment, we should also address
the situation of NPOC, as this
comment is regarding NomCom
rebalance. <br>
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<p>Best regards,</p>
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<div>Below is a draft to the Public
Comments on NomCom Review that closes
on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted
by Judith Hellerstein and Peter
Akinremi. Please provide your urgent
comments to the draft by midnight UTC
on Thursday 25th May.<br>
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From: <b>Judith Hellerstein</b> <span><<a
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Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08<br>
Subject: Re: Public Comments on
NomCom Review closes on May 29<br>
To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a
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Cc: Johan Helsingius <<a
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<p>Hi Caleb,</p>
<p>Here is the draft comment that
I propose to send out for to the
various Policy teams within the
NCSG for comment. I do not know
who is on the PC FO to send it
to so please can you send this
to them for me. Also not sure of
your particular style or not.<br>
</p>
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href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank"
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<p>Peter and I have editing
writes, but everyone has
commenting rights. What we
might want to do if we run out
of time before the deadline is
to post a draft first and then
replace it with the approved and
ratified one later</p>
<p>I am interested in seeing your
opinion on this <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
</p>
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<div>On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb
Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Judith,
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<div>Thank you for coming up
with this.</div>
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<div>Since we have a short
timeline, can we put the
draft in a google doc and
ask that you share it with
the PC FO input and
feedback.</div>
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<div>One thing we can request
through the PC is ask them
to write ICANN for a little
extension as it takes the
entire PC a while to provide
feedback and ratify public
comments that represents
the NCSG's views.</div>
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<div>Happy to see <span><a
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href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com"
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Peter Taiwo</a></span><span> joining
you to take a lead on
this.</span></div>
<div><span>I'm sure he can
provide you with some NCSG
perspective to support the
arguments that will be put
forward. </span></div>
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<div><span>Caleb </span></div>
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2023, 2:38 PM Judith
Hellerstein <<a
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<p>HI All,</p>
<p>Good talk on today's
NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks
for clarifying that
Stephanie and you are
only collaborating on
the NomCom Rebalancing
letter that Interim CEO
Sally Costerton sent to
all constituencies. I
suggested that we draft
a statement in response
to the public comment on
the NomCom Review, and
will be happy to be the
Pen Holder. Basically,
there are 4 questions
they are asking us to
comment upon. Public
Comments are due May 29,
2023. I have also cc'd
my fellow NomCom rep,
Peter Taiwo as he also
suggested he was
interested in helping
draft. <br>
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<p>1) Our Input on the
Fundamental Bylaws
amendment proposed for
Article 7 of the ICANN
Bylaws and the related
proposed statement
defining “Unaffiliated”
Directors?</p>
<p>2) Our Input on the
proposed Standard Bylaws
amendments proposed to
Article 8 of the ICANN
Bylaws as well as the
Transition Clause<br>
</p>
<p> Change NomCom
delegates’ terms to
serve two-year terms,
instead of one year.<br>
Transform all NomCom
delegates into voting
delegates to be able to
vote, except for
leadership.<br>
Create a NomCom
Standing Committee to
provide continuity
across annual NomCom
cycles and to build the
institutional memory of
the NomCom.<br>
</p>
<p> 3) Our Input on the
NomCom Standing
Committee Charter? <br>
</p>
<p>4) Our input on the
required changes to
their RSSAC bylaws to
allow them to accept a
voting slot instead of
the current non-voting
slot</p>
<p>Here is a PowerPoint
slide describing these
changes. Only
contentious issue is the
definition of
unaffiliated Directors <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith Hellerstein <br>
</p>
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<div>On 5/22/23 7:33 AM,
Johan Helsingius wrote:<br>
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think the GNSO decision
not to go there was
longer than 6 months
ago. <br>
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Julf <br>
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On 21/05/2023 16:55,
Judith Hellerstein
wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi
Julf, <br>
Apparently it is too
late for this, which
is really sad. I was
told the time to have
done this negotiation
was several months ago
before the GNSO
rejected these ideas.
Sorry but I had not
been focusing on these
issues 6 months ago.
The suggestion that
was in the original
public comment was
what the review
committee had
suggested so that the
GNSO could decide for
itself but apparently
according to CLO,
groups within the GNSO
heavily resisted this
change and that was
why the board/ review
committee took back
part of the review. .
ALAC was for it and
wanted to see this
rebalancing but the
review committee and
Board got too much
flack from people
within the GNSO so
they had to pull even
this simple
adjustment. <br>
<br>
Our best shot is the
letter to sally
however, even with the
letter it is unlikely
to happen again until
5 years. Maybe the
NCSG can take back the
slot from the NCUC as
the only reason it was
not given to the NCSG
was because NPOC and
the NCSG had not
existed when these
slots were first
created. <br>
<br>
I have not heard from
Stephanie about the
comments on the NomCom
Review. Has one been
created. If not, I
can pass you forward
the one myself and
Yrjo are writing for
ALAC. The only
contested issue not
decided is the
definition of
unaffiliated and what
that means and entail.
Otherwise, What I have
written have been
accepted by the ALAC.
<br>
<br>
Best, <br>
Judith <br>
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