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El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin@gmail.com> escribió:
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<div><div id="yiv4794165190"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear PC,</div><div><br></div><div>Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that closes on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein and Peter Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the draft by midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4794165190gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Warmly,<br></div>Tomslin<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;"><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><div class="yiv4794165190gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv4794165190gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class="yiv4794165190gmail_sendername">Judith Hellerstein</b> <span><<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08<br>Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29<br>To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Johan Helsingius <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>>, Raoul Plommer <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com">plommer@gmail.com</a>>, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br>
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<p>Hi Caleb,</p>
<p>Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment. I do not know
who is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to
them for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.<br>
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<p><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p>Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
rights. What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
approved and ratified one later</p>
<p>I am interested in seeing your opinion on this <br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
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<div>On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa
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<div>Thank you for coming up with this.</div>
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<div>Since we have a short timeline, can we put the
draft in a google doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO
input and feedback.</div>
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<div>One thing we can request through the PC is ask
them to write ICANN for a little extension as it takes the
entire PC a while to provide feedback and ratify public
comments that represents the NCSG's views.</div>
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<div>Happy to see <span class="yiv4794165190gmail_chip yiv4794165190gmail_plusreply"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" style="color:#15c;text-decoration:underline;">@Akinremi Peter Taiwo</a></span><span> joining
you to take a lead on this.</span></div>
<div><span>I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG
perspective to support the arguments that will be put
forward. </span></div>
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<div><span>Caleb </span></div>
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<p>HI All,</p>
<p>Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for
clarifying that Stephanie and you are only collaborating
on the NomCom Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally
Costerton sent to all constituencies. I suggested that we
draft a statement in response to the public comment on the
NomCom Review, and will be happy to be the Pen Holder.
Basically, there are 4 questions they are asking us to
comment upon. Public Comments are due May 29, 2023. I
have also cc'd my fellow NomCom rep, Peter Taiwo as he
also suggested he was interested in helping draft. <br>
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<p>1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed
for Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?</p>
<p>2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
Transition Clause<br>
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<p> Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year
terms, instead of one year.<br>
Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates
to be able to vote, except for leadership.<br>
Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide
continuity across annual NomCom cycles and to build the
institutional memory of the NomCom.<br>
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<p> 3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
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<p>4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC
bylaws to allow them to accept a voting slot instead of
the current non-voting slot</p>
<p>Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.
Only contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated
Directors <br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith Hellerstein <br>
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<div>On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:<br>
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there was longer than 6 months ago. <br>
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Julf <br>
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On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi Julf, <br>
Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad.
I was told the time to have done this negotiation was
several months ago before the GNSO rejected these
ideas. Sorry but I had not been focusing on these
issues 6 months ago. The suggestion that was in the
original public comment was what the review committee
had suggested so that the GNSO could decide for itself
but apparently according to CLO, groups within the GNSO
heavily resisted this change and that was why the board/
review committee took back part of the review. . ALAC
was for it and wanted to see this rebalancing but the
review committee and Board got too much flack from
people within the GNSO so they had to pull even this
simple adjustment. <br>
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Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with
the letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years.
Maybe the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as
the only reason it was not given to the NCSG was because
NPOC and the NCSG had not existed when these slots were
first created. <br>
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I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on
the NomCom Review. Has one been created. If not, I
can pass you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing
for ALAC. The only contested issue not decided is the
definition of unaffiliated and what that means and
entail. Otherwise, What I have written have been
accepted by the ALAC. <br>
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Best, <br>
Judith <br>
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