<div dir="auto">To do that (have a neutral team undertake an interview task), we will first need an mutually agreed criteria by both SGs which we'll give to such a neutral team to use. We don't have any such bi-SG criteria. <br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>Tomslin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 10 May 2023, 15:55 Akinremi Peter Taiwo, <<a href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks Bruna. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I was there during the interview. That was why I said our response should be the previous stance. We didn't find their candidate suitable. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Since CSG has called for mediation and refused to accommodate other names for the board seat, so a strategy would be suggesting a neutral committee to interview the incumbent and their candidate. And that will also help guide the notion that the incumbent did not perform well. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 10 May 2023, 02:16 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi, Akinremi. Just to clarify something: we have agreed to and interviewed their suggestion/candidate for the board seat. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At the time, Julf provided CSG leadership with a clear assessment from the ones of us who happened to be at the interview explaining how we thought the candidate did not fulfill the requirements. The issue is that we have reached a deadlock bc CSG refuses to present a new name, interview the other candidate suggested by us and now they have suggested the mediation. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best, </div><div dir="auto">Bruna </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Akinremi Peter Taiwo <<a href="mailto:compsoftnet@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">compsoftnet@gmail.com</a>> schrieb am Di. 9. Mai 2023 um 17:54:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Hi Folks,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It is obvious that the friend from the other house already have a position. We need to agree on a position before entering the meeting.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Comparing the incumbent with someone not yet ripe for the board is sort of amazing to me. It would be good to hear from them how they rate their preferred candidate and with what yardstick. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Our position should be the previous stance.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> However, it would be good to interview the incumbent and other to determine who should be selected. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Nomcom uses the same method. Let there be a neutral committee setup from from both house with criteria defined. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My 2cent.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 9 May 2023, 8:30 pm David Morar, <<a href="mailto:davidcristianmorar@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">davidcristianmorar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">If Bruna and Tomslin could do it, that would be great! For the next meeting, I think we should figure out a way to have NCSG, NCUC and NPOC represented, so that we have good balance, or if folks think that Julf, Bruna and Tomslin works, we can leave it at that!<br><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><b>David Morar, PhD</b></div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/morar" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">@morar</a> | <a href="http://davidmorar.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">davidmorar.com</a></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 12:12 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">I can definitely help on this, Julf. And would suggest we maybe bring Tomslin in as well? </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Lori wants to bring Mason and Phillipe to our mediation set-up meeting. <br>
Do we want to pick co-negotiators at short notice, or are you OK with me <br>
facing them alone? Going forward it would make sense to have one person <br>
from each constituency (with NCSG counting as one).<br>
<br>
Julf<br>
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Subject: Re: Are you invited other NCSG'ers tomorrow?<br>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 17:59:45 +0200<br>
From: Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf.helsingius@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">julf.helsingius@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lschulman@inta.org</a>><br>
CC: Melissa Allgood <<a href="mailto:melissa.allgood@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">melissa.allgood@icann.org</a>><br>
<br>
Hi Lori,<br>
<br>
8000 people on site is indeed an impressively big meeting!<br>
<br>
I know what a hassle it is to prepare for a trip like that,<br>
and i appreciate you taking the time to get the moderation<br>
started.<br>
<br>
I was assuming it would be just you, me and Melissa at this point,<br>
so I haven't invited anyone else. It is a bit of a short notice<br>
to get the right people to join, so I might keep it at just me<br>
from our side, but I have no issue with Phillipe and Mason joining<br>
us.<br>
<br>
Julf<br>
<br>
On 09/05/2023 13:49, Lori Schulman wrote:<br>
> Hi Julf,<br>
> <br>
> Hope you are well. I am getting ready to fly off to INTA’s Annual <br>
> Meeting in Singapore. We expect 8,000 on site. It’s been a whirlwind. <br>
> Meanwhile, I am wondering if you are inviting other members of your <br>
> ExCom to the call tomorrow? I had originally thought that it might be <br>
> best if you and I met alone with Melissa so we can ask questions about <br>
> process and parameters and set the framework for moving forward. <br>
> However, given that I will be out of pocket until May 30, I am thinking <br>
> of inviting whoever can make it from the CSG Excomm. I did not want to <br>
> surprise you with more participants if you had not contemplated the <br>
> same. Please let me know. I was thinking of at least asking Mason and <br>
> Phillipe. LMK.<br>
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