<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Julf,</div><div><br></div><div>speaking here as the rep to GGP. Yes, the BE representative is pushing that commercial entities can be covered by applicant support. That was discussed several times in GGP and the argument against it is that we need to focus on non-commercial and non-profit applicants. We had the same discussion 11 years ago about the JAS WG. </div><div>my personal opinion : this might possibly open the door for gaming and some will try to benefit from applicant support while they are solely for profit. How many would do? I don't know .. </div><div>I believe NCSG's concern and focus is non-commercial, we shouldn't dilute the program as that will be self-defeating.</div><div><br></div><div>for reference, quoting the section related to that topic:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-feab6e30-7fff-c0ea-3044-1dc6a665c3f9"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">GOAL: That potential applicants from the not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community organizations should be a priority target of events, communication channels, and publications, over those with a more commercial or technical focus. </span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Approach</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: While not excluding any other type of applicant, ICANN org should prioritize targeting potential applicants from the not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community organizations, over those with a more commercial or technical focus, through events, communications channels, and publications.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Indicators of Success</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: That the majority of outreach events, communications channels, and publications are targeted to supported applicants are from not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community organizations. [CONSIDER ADDING: </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">However, groups with a more commercial focus should also remain a key focus of these outreach events, communications channels and publications.]</span></p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Data/Metrics to Measure Success</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Percentage of outreach events, communications channels, and publications targeted to supported applicants from not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community organizations. [CONSIDER ADDING: </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(255,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">with groups with a more commercial focus also remaining a key target</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">.]</span></span><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>sorry that is just quick feedback. I will try to send some status report soon regarding GGP working progress</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 14 avr. 2023 à 15:46, Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Opinions?<br>
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Julf<br>
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Subject: Article on applicant support<br>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:50:26 -0300<br>
From: Mark Datysgeld <<a href="mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com" target="_blank">mark@governanceprimer.com</a>><br>
To: Johan Helsingius <julf@Julf.com>, Stephanie Perrin <br>
<<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br>
CC: Lawrence Olawale-Roberts <<a href="mailto:lawrence@microboss.org" target="_blank">lawrence@microboss.org</a>><br>
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Julf, Stephanie,<br>
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Following up on the discussions we had on bringing a greater sense of <br>
harmony to our House:<br>
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I will write an article for CircleID together with Lawrence Roberts <br>
speaking of the importance of ICANN providing applicant support for the <br>
developing world to be able to compete, based on data that we sourced <br>
demonstrating how underrepresented this half the world was last time. <br>
Our focus will be particularly on SMEs.<br>
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While I am aware that this focus does not align with the current NCSG <br>
position, we do not exclude the need to support NGOs and similar <br>
entities, but rather want support for both cases. In that sense, I'd <br>
like to represent the NCSG's vision in parallel to our argument, stating <br>
that we hope both SGs arrive at a conclusion that ultimately benefits <br>
the developing world.<br>
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In case you find that interesting, could you send me a summary of the <br>
policy council's position within the next 7 days? In case you would <br>
rather not join, let's look towards other opportunities of representing <br>
our House's views together in the future.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Mark W. Datysgeld [markwd.website <<a href="https://markwd.website" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://markwd.website</a>>]<br>
Director at Governance Primer [<a href="http://governanceprimer.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">governanceprimer.com</a> <br>
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