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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I've added some text in suggesting mode. I've now checked with
senior attorneys in various states and the BC contention is simply
wrong: attorneys can (and must) generally disclose WHO their
client is, but not WHAT they've discussed. In policy making
proceedings, attorneys almost always disclosure their clients,
except in very, very rare circumstances. <br>
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<p>So I have added (with... showing a jump to a later part of the
text),
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmJPMhoTWEh37Ewh-ticj7WMgwcQQ7VMZkzIHLlbCVs/edit">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmJPMhoTWEh37Ewh-ticj7WMgwcQQ7VMZkzIHLlbCVs/edit</a>:
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Sorry for late input!</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Best, Kathy</span></p>
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id="docs-internal-guid-33286dfb-7fff-36f6-96e5-64a143cc5f33"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">--------------------------- NCSG SOI Comments --------------------------</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">... Public processes benefit from knowing who is representing who and then balancing the interests of the many different participants in a proceeding. </span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">... </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">Finally, NCSG must respectfully contest the underlying proposition by the BC that attorneys cannot disclose their clients in policymaking proceedings. In very few circumstances is the “fact of the representation” of a lawyer considered confidential. We provide a few examples:</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">[1] See Cal. Formal Op. 2011-182 (2011). "In most situations, the identity of a client is not considered confidential and in such circumstances Attorney may disclose the fact of the representation to Prospective Client without Witness Client's consent." Citing to Los Angeles County Bar Association Professional Responsibility and Ethics Committee Op. 456 (1989).</span><a
href="https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2018/03/aba-clarifies-lawyers-confidentiality-obligations"
style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1155cc;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;-webkit-text-decoration-skip:none;text-decoration-skip-ink:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2018/03/aba-clarifies-lawyers-confidentiality-obligations</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">[2] Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, The Rules of Professional Conduct. </span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">3.9 Advocate in Nonadjudicative Proceedings</span></p>
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id="docs-internal-guid-3efd9bf0-7fff-3766-03c0-bb114b85a278"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">A lawyer representing a client before a legislative body or administrative agency in a nonadjudicative proceeding shall disclose that the appearance is in a representative capacity and shall conform to the provisions of Rules 3.3(a) through (c), 3.4(a) through (c), and 3.5.</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><a
href="https://www.padisciplinaryboard.org/Storage/media/pdfs/20210920/140616-rpc2021-08-25amended.pdf"
style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1155cc;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;-webkit-text-decoration-skip:none;text-decoration-skip-ink:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;">https://www.padisciplinaryboard.org/Storage/media/pdfs/20210920/140616-rpc2021-08-25amended.pdf</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/7/2023 1:05 PM, Johan Helsingius
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:1d9f5dd8-dec5-328c-19bc-22072a433f63@Julf.com">On
07/04/2023 17:32, Akinremi Peter Taiwo wrote:
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Is there any justification as to why
lawyers/lobbyists/consultants should not disclose their
identity?
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
"The BC is not in favor of eliminating a swath of ICANN
participants
<br>
simply because they are ethically bound to not disclose their
client
<br>
relationships. There are myriad reasons – not the least of which
would
<br>
be the fact that disclosure of those being represented could
invite
<br>
even more gaming into the ICANN system. For example, an attorney
<br>
representing a new gTLD applicant could be compelled to disclose
<br>
his/her relationship with that applicant, inviting a competing
<br>
application. That’s just one example."
<br>
<br>
We are definitely countering this. I will post final version later
<br>
today (deadline is today).
<br>
<br>
Julf
<br>
</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Kathy Kleiman
President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
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