<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi all,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">We've discussed extensively the topic of SOI in Cancun. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Please find below the request from staff for each SG to submit their statements on this topic by <b style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><u>Friday 7 April .</u></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">You can also find BC's statement below. NCSG could consider whether to respond since they made an effort mentioning us in their statement.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">As I mentioned before, I'm NOT the NCSG representative but the Council liaison to the task force. I'd urge our representative on the task force to draft a statement and circulate it on the list before submitting it to the task force. I recommend using the statement NCSG has presented during the Council Town Hall session in Cancun.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Manju</div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Marika Konings</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 10:27 PM<br>Subject: Re: [GNSO-SOI-TF] Action Items & Notes: SOI TF Meeting 01 March 2023 at 14:00 UTC<br>To: Imran Hossen <<a href="mailto:imran@eysoftbd.com">imran@eysoftbd.com</a>>, Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:gnso-soi-tf@icann.org">gnso-soi-tf@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gnso-soi-tf@icann.org">gnso-soi-tf@icann.org</a>><br></div><br><br><div class="msg-9060376619896427723">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks, Imran. Can you confirm that this is the statement that the BC would like to include in the report on this topic?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">All, we have a call scheduled for next week, but we are going to give everyone a bit more time to consult and prepare statements on the exemption language for inclusion in the report.
In the meantime, we will also consult with Manju as the CCOICI liaison to this effort to see if there are further efforts we can undertake to bring the group closer together on this issue, or whether it is time to escalate it to the CCOICI for resolution.
Of course, if there are any new proposals or changes in views on this topic, feel free to share these with the list.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The meeting will be moved to Wednesday 12 April so please submit your group’s statements
<b><u>by Friday 7 April at the latest</u></b>. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Julie & Marika<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">GNSO-SOI-TF <<a href="mailto:gnso-soi-tf-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-soi-tf-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Imran Hossen <<a href="mailto:imran@eysoftbd.com" target="_blank">imran@eysoftbd.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 23 March 2023 at 14:29<br>
<b>To: </b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-soi-tf@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-soi-tf@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-soi-tf@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-soi-tf@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [GNSO-SOI-TF] Action Items & Notes: SOI TF Meeting 01 March 2023 at 14:00 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In terms of my representation of the BC’s position, I consulted with the BC Chair and I believe we’re in agreement that the BC is strongly opposed
to this proposal. Reasoning:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Contracted parties and their allies are positioning this as a transparency issue. That calls for some skepticism.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The BC is not in favor of eliminating a swath of ICANN participants simply because they are ethically bound to not disclose
their client relationships. There are myriad reasons – not the least of which would be the fact that disclosure of those being represented could invite even more gaming into the ICANN system. For example, an attorney representing a new gTLD applicant could
be compelled to disclose his/her relationship with that applicant, inviting a competing application. That’s just one example.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Proponents of the rule change have suggested as a compromise that, should a participant be in this position, he/she could
just disclose the identity of the client relationship to ICANN Org or the working group chair. That, frankly, is preposterous – ICANN is a sieve of information leakage in the first place, and – further – such disclosure puts one or two individuals into a
decision-making position on that person’s participation. ICANN is not in the business of appointing people who can arbitrate others’ participation.</span><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Interesting that the NCSG – which is a vociferous proponent of privacy – is beating the drum for revealing representation.
They can’t have it both ways – protect identities when they want and don’t when they find it convenient.</span><u></u><u></u></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 8:47 PM Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Please see below the action items and brief notes from today’s SOI Task Force meeting on Wednesday, 01 March 2023 at 14:00 UTC. These also are posted to the
wiki at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/yYXOCg" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/yYXOCg</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Marika and Julie<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">GNSO SOI TF Meeting on Wednesday 01 March at 14:00 UTC</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US"> </span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">ACTION ITEMS:
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<b><span lang="EN-US">SOI TF members to provide their position statements on the exemption language by 24 March that can be included in the report to the CCOICI. Staff to specifically request feedback from IPSPC and BC as we have yet to hear from those groups.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<b><span lang="EN-US">GNSO Secretariat staff to 1) circulate a Doodle poll to schedule an informal meeting for Wednesday or Thursday at ICANN76; 2) schedule a SOI TF meeting for Wednesday, 29 March at 1400 UTC.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<b><span lang="EN-US">SOI TF members to suggest possible questions for ICANN Legal.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US"> </span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Notes: </span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">1. Welcome<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2. Consider possible modification of exemption language whereby represented individual or entity information is shared only with WG leadership if exemption is
invoked. See: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1aFuwubJUiIbXjui9mT6M9n1iSd-N_puL/edit__;!!PtGJab4!6DbG5NBCJY713AFh2289AXAqDrObS3KKfp1qtaYPoJRRvwFpeG9o-t4FgQK9SAnMgW9Fx2DTCZ1XBwFDZ4kheRqu3A$" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aFuwubJUiIbXjui9mT6M9n1iSd-N_puL/edit [docs.google.com]</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If no support for 2:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">3. Positions on exemption language (awaiting input from ISPCP and BC)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">RySG will have feedback soon – it is an interesting compromise. Also awaiting feedback from the registrars.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">RrSG: A lot of questions of where these recommendations go from here. Still could be several concerns.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">If this TF can’t come to consensus on language, it will go back to the CCOICI and then to the Council. The Council would vote on changes to the Operating Procedures as a simply majority vote. Also is sent to the Board.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">IPC: Appreciate the attempt at a compromise, but if you can’t disclose then you can’t disclose to the leadership.
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<span lang="EN-US">If additional time is needed to consider, we should take it. Can also discuss at the ICANN76 Council meeting. It would be helpful for each group to state their views for the CCOICI to consider. Seems that this is the only point of disagreement
in the revisions to the SOI.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">NCSG: Strong opposition to the existing text.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">RySG: We will still develop some examples to be posted with the SOI.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">4. Possible SOI Pilot<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Not clear that this will be worth the effort and time if groups won’t change their views.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">5. Possible question to ICANN legal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Important to frame the question and get agreement that this would be helpful.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">6. Confirm next steps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Helpful to get statements of positions from TF member groups to be included in the report to the CCOICI to consider.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Deadline by 24 March to submit their statements on the exemption language.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Reconvene on 29 March at 1400 UTC to review the final report.
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<span lang="EN-US">No further public comment period is planned unless the CCOICI makes changes. Not sure what it would achieve at this point as this already an issue that was called out in public comment.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">RrSG: Consider putting this out for public comment again before going to Council as people were not paying attention.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Staff: If we do a focused public comment we need to agree on specific question(s) that would yield responses that could move this forward. Also there is the opportunity to socialize among your groups at ICANN76 – could set up an informal
SOI TF meeting in a sign-up room if available (no remote access). Is there interest in this? Possibly but it would need to be later in the week. Secretariat to do a Doodle poll.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">ACTION ITEMS:
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<b><span lang="EN-US">SOI TF members to provide their position statements on the exemption language by 24 March that can be included in the report to the CCOICI. Staff to specifically request feedback from IPSPC and BC as we have yet to hear from those groups.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<b><span lang="EN-US">GNSO Secretariat staff to 1) circulate a Doodle poll to schedule an informal meeting for Wednesday or Thursday at ICANN76; 2) schedule a SOI TF meeting for Wednesday, 29 March at 1400 UTC.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<b><span lang="EN-US">SOI TF members to suggest possible questions for ICANN Legal.</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></li></ol>
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