<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Hi Tomslin</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks for this. I think generally it's good but asking for a definition might open doors to other problems. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Here is DNSAI response to the council small team letter: <a href="https://dnsabuseinstitute.org/dnsai-response-gnso-small-team-dns-abuse/">https://dnsabuseinstitute.org/dnsai-response-gnso-small-team-dns-abuse/</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Basically Graeme is suggesting micro narrowly focused pdps on issues related to ICANN mandate. But I find it a curious suggestion. Does he mean they should have PDPs on each kind of DNS abuse that are in ICANN's registrar agreement? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 7:35 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar via ncsg-dns-abuse-wg <<a href="mailto:ncsg-dns-abuse-wg@icann.org">ncsg-dns-abuse-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi everyone,</div><div><br></div><div>As you must have read from the update Wisdom shared a while back, some questions were asked during an outreach by the small team and though our community didn't provide any feedback to Wisdom's email, I think it will be a good idea for us to provide some sort of official response to those questions back to the small team. <br></div><div>N.B: I went to observe the small teams meeting last week and realised that all other SGs have or are planning to provide responses to those questions.</div><div><br></div><div>I have taken the liberty to <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hg468obYDwylFQ6q-3AX6m7UxZvNY1EXGpBFJ-WVd_0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">draft</a> a few responses, which I hope you all can make changes to it as well to better reflect our position on DNS abuse. The Google doc is here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hg468obYDwylFQ6q-3AX6m7UxZvNY1EXGpBFJ-WVd_0/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hg468obYDwylFQ6q-3AX6m7UxZvNY1EXGpBFJ-WVd_0/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div><br></div><div>
The Questions again are:

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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" id="gmail-m_-986143924371684430gmail-docs-internal-guid-37a223f3-7fff-b40f-fc8a-c308f567d8ad"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">What specific problem(s) would policy development in particular be expected to address and why do you believe that policy development is the right mechanism to solve those problems?</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Proposed Response</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: The NCSG does not believe there are any problems discussed in the community that require policy development effort. Moreover, a common definition of DNS abuse which is in alignment with ICANN’s bylaws and technical remit first needs to be adopted by the community.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">What do you believe are the expected outcomes if policy development would be undertaken, taking into account the remit of ICANN and more specifically GNSO policy development in this context?</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Proposed Response</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: None, since we do not see any problem requiring policy development.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Do you (or your community group) have any expectations with regards to possible next steps the GNSO Council could or should undertake in the context of policy development?</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Proposed Response</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">: Our expectation of next steps is for a common community definition of DNS abuse which is in alignment with ICANN’s bylaws and technical remit.</span></p>

</div><div><br></div><div><div>Tomslin</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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