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<p>Hi Manju,</p>
<p>Your material is excellent. I've tried to be helpful in adding
more references from the GAC Beijing Advice in 2013, and some of
the outreach of the more recent outreach of SubPro WG members to
the GAC during the PDP. <br>
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<p>Also some sources/references/letters/CircleID at bottom now. <br>
</p>
<p>What else can we do to help you?</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/31/2022 9:32 PM, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen
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<div dir="auto">Hi Kathy,</div>
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Council has formed a small team and charged it with the task
of coming up with suggestions for the next step. </div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I guess
you can think of this small team as having the
responsibility of requesting input from their respective
groups?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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members of the small team are <span
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McGrady, Kurt Pritz, Jeff Neuman, Justine Chew, and me. </span></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">So you
can see how we really have to hold our fort on this one, and
I'm counting on the statement we agreed to put together as a
cheat sheet so I deliver our points loud and clear.</div>
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small team is scheduled to meet next week. I'll listen to
our policy call again to note down our points. In the
meantime, I'd really appreciate more insights from those of
you who have extensive knowledge of closed generics and
GAC/GNSO dialogue on Red Cross.</div>
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20:39 Kathy Kleiman <<a
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<p>Hi Tomslin,</p>
<p>I thought the Council was going to go through a period
of requesting some input. Has that changed?</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div>On 3/30/2022 9:08 PM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I just wanted to call your attention
to this response we promised to put together on the
board proposed dialogue between GAC and Council on
closed generics. The Council small team is about to
be activated to start deliberations and I believe <span
class="gmail_chip gmail_plusreply" dir="auto"><a
href="mailto:manju@nii.org.tw"
style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(17,85,204)"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">@陳曼茹
Manju Chen</a></span><span> who is representing
us there hopes to rely on the response we pen down
to guide her contribution to that team. </span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span>In this regard, can I request
that we find some time to please put our ideas
down on the Google form</span><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="auto">Looking forward to your help with
this. In the meantime, i'll review my meeting notes
and put down some feedback we got during our policy
call on the document. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
<div dir="auto">Warmly, <br>
Tomslin</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 16 Mar
2022, 22:25 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all,</div>
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<div>As a follow-up to my previous email
regarding the board's proposed facilitated
dialogue between GAC and GNSO council, I have
created this Google doc [ <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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] to capture our response to this proposal in
the form of a letter to the council small team
on Closed Generics.</div>
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<div>Inputs to the document are welcomed and for
your convenience, attached again is the letter
from the board and the accompanying framing
paper.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 15
Mar 2022 at 08:12, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a
href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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<div>Dear everyone,</div>
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<div>Here is the framing paper on the
board's proposed dialogue between GNSO
Council and the GAC on Closed Generics
that was promised.</div>
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<div>Comments are welcomed. I will also be
sending a separate email with a link to
the Google doc where we intend to draft
a letter as a response to this.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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Gnso-chairs</b> <span
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 04:33<br>
Subject: [gnso-chairs]
[CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman
to Manal Ismail and Philippe
Fouquart - GAC-GNSO Consultation
on Closed Generics<br>
To: <a
href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org"
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<<a
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rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gac-staff@icann.org</a>>,
Maarten Botterman <<a
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rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
Manal and Philippe,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p><span>Pursuant to the letter
sent recently (6 March 2022,
attached for reference), we
are now forwarding the
associated framework paper
entitled “</span><span>Board-Facilitated
Process for a GAC - GNSO
Council Dialogue on Closed
Generics”<span>, also
attached.</span></span></p>
<p><span><b><span> </span></b></span></p>
<p><span>Thank you and best
regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Wendy
Profit</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">ICANN</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Board
Operations Senior Manager</span></p>
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style="color:black">From:
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style="color:black">Wendy
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rel="noreferrer"
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<b>Date: </b>Sunday,
March 6, 2022 at 3:58 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a
href="mailto:manal.ismail@board.icann.org"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>"
<<a
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rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">manal.ismail@board.icann.org</a>>,
"<a
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rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>"
<<a
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rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>,
"<a
href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>"
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rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Maarten
Botterman <<a
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rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">maarten.botterman@board.icann.org</a>>,
"<a
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gnso-chairs@icann.org</a>"
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target="_blank"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>"
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target="_blank"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>,
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target="_blank"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">board-ops-team@icann.org</a>>,
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rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
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<b>Subject: </b>[CORRESPONDENCE]
Maarten Botterman to Manal
Ismail and Philippe
Fouquart - GAC-GNSO
Consultation on Closed
Generics</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear
Manal and Philippe,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Please
find the attached letter
from ICANN Chair Maarten
Botterman regarding a
proposed formal consultation
between the GAC and GNSO
Council on how to handle the
subject of closed generics
in gTLD applications.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thank
you and best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Wendy
Profit</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">ICANN</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Board
Operations Senior Manager</span></p>
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