<div><br></div><div dir="auto">Hi </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The trusted notifier idea is back again and as we know it can be a terrible idea. </div><div dir="auto">Also the EU has published a report on DNS abuse without any consultation with civil society, considering industry and IPstakeholders only (at least thats my impression at the first glance) </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Even if we don’t have a position we have to meet with the CPH about this and definitely parse out which of their activities related to ICANN mission and which doesn’t. The fact that DNS abuse initiatives are forming one after another is kind of puzzling for me. I thought the abuse institute was going to gain momentum and most of the work be done there. I might be wrong. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Farzaneh</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 8:38 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos via ncsg-dns-abuse-wg <<a href="mailto:ncsg-dns-abuse-wg@icann.org">ncsg-dns-abuse-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Ephraim! <br><br>I just informed Tomslin and the Policy Committee that Keith Drazek did contact me earlier today offering once again the chance to have a dialogue between the CPH and the NCSG on the topic, but this time the subject they sugg<font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">ested is: trusted notifier expectations and malicious vs. compromised domains. </font><div><br></div><div>I am currently sick - covid caught me one more time - and therefore am not able to volunteer for leading the efforts but would be happy to join any discussions on that matter. Also, if the members of this internal effort see fit in us having a meeting prior to the CPH one (I consider it important) I will be more than happy to ask Andrea to get us a doodle going. </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div>Bruna </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:51 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Hi Ephraim, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for these links. I think they are timely too because only today, I noticed that the contracted party house is interested and requesting to continue the discussion on DNS abuse with us again this year. I note however that we are yet to develop a common position and definition as a Stakeholder Group like you mentioned. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We may need a volunteer to champion and lead this internal discussion, otherwise we may not make significant progress on it this year as well. Would anyone on this list like to take the lead on this?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best wishes</div><div dir="auto">Tomslin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 8 Feb 2022, 1:49 am Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via ncsg-dns-abuse-wg, <<a href="mailto:ncsg-dns-abuse-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">ncsg-dns-abuse-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<p><font face="TradeGothic LT" style="font-family:"TradeGothic LT";color:rgb(0,0,0)">Will be great if we can restart these
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