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    <p>Thanks Steve, I was doing markup on the redline version, but
      apparently the changes dont show clearly.  I have copy pasted it
      below, but you have captured the sense of it.</p>
    <p>Stephanie<br>
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          lang="EN-US">The NomCom is seeking accomplished persons of
          integrity,
          objectivity, and intelligence with <b>e</b><b><a
              style="mso-comment-reference:SP_1;
              mso-comment-date:20211117T1239">xperience</a></b></span><span
          class="MsoCommentReference"><span
            style="font-size:8.0pt;color:black;
            mso-color-alt:windowtext" lang="EN-US"><a
              class="msocomanchor" id="_anchor_1" href="#_msocom_1"
              name="_msoanchor_1">[SP1]</a><span
              style="mso-special-character:comment"> </span></span></span><span
          style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
          Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
          Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#333333"
          lang="EN-US"> in the multistakeholder
          policymaking process and within the GNSO community. While GNSO
          Council members
          should have a deep understanding of the GNSO structure,
          existing ICANN consensus policies, and contracts
          between ICANN and registries and registrars, preference will
          be given
          to candidates with a demonstrable ability to manage the policy
          development
          process towards the best interests of the entire GNSO
          community rather than
          solely for a specific GNSO Stakeholder Group or Constituency.
          NomCom appointed members
          are expected to act with integrity and independently. Voting
          NomCom appointed
          members are encouraged to engage with the Council
          representatives of their
          appointed House and all NomCom appointed member are encouraged
          to engage with
          the GNSO community more broadly, </span><span
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            lang="EN-US"><a class="msocomanchor" id="_anchor_2"
              href="#_msocom_2" name="_msoanchor_2">[SP2]</a><span
              style="mso-special-character:comment"> </span></span></span><span
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          lang="EN-US">to understand their
          concerns and views, so that the NomCom appointee may be an
          informed and
          effective councilor.</span></p>
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          lang="EN-US">NomCom appointed members who are affiliated with
          an ICANN
          community group at the time of application are not meant to
          represent their
          current or previously affiliated group and are expected to
          observe the
          principles and intent of the ICANN’s Conflicts of Interest
          Policy.</span></p>
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              style="mso-comment-author:
              "Stephanie
              Perrin";mso-comment-providerid:"Windows
              Live";mso-comment-userid:
              84ca7457d663a8dc"><a name="_msocom_1"></a></span>
            <p class="MsoCommentText"><span class="MsoCommentReference"><span
                  style="font-size:8.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="mso-special-character:comment"> <a
                      href="#_msoanchor_1" class="msocomoff">[SP1]</a></span></span></span><span
                lang="EN-US">NCSG rejects the word “ experience” and
                “within the GNSO community.”<span
                  style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Already we have an
                issue with burnout of
                existing members, and a “revolving door” of the same
                people running for office,
                year after year.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>We
                need fresh eyes on
                our work, to ensure that there is no capture by a small
                group of
                stakeholders.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Please
                revert to previous
                language.</span></p>
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          <div id="_com_2" class="msocomtxt"><span
              style="mso-comment-author:
              "Stephanie
              Perrin";mso-comment-providerid:"Windows
              Live";mso-comment-userid:
              84ca7457d663a8dc"><a name="_msocom_2"></a></span>
            <p class="MsoCommentText"><span class="MsoCommentReference"><span
                  style="font-size:8.0pt" lang="EN-US"><span
                    style="mso-special-character:comment"> <a
                      href="#_msoanchor_2" class="msocomoff">[SP2]</a></span></span></span><span
                lang="EN-US">With respect to the language that has been
                deleted here, starting
                with “balance the interests” and ending with their
                appointed House”, please revert
                and return this important language.<span
                  style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>WE
                want neutrality on the part of Nomcom appointees, and
                fresh eyes…in the event
                that Nomcom selects members who have been active in the
                stakeholder community
                at ICANN already, we absolutely need to emphasis the
                need for neutrality and
                non-representation on the part of their previous or
                current constituency.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Repetition
                in the new paragraph below is
                fine, we cannot over-emphasize the importance of this
                aspect of the role.</span></p>
            <p class="MsoCommentText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-11-17 4:45 p.m., Steve Chan
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Stephanie, <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">It took me a moment to see what you were
          suggesting, as I saw no redlines. I’ve since seen your comment
          in the Word doc and thought it might be helpful to make clear
          what specific change you are suggesting. For the first
          sentence under Job Description:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><i>As
              currently shared</i>:
            <span style="color:#333333">The NomCom is seeking
              accomplished persons of integrity, objectivity, and
              intelligence
              <b>with experience</b> in the multistakeholder
              policymaking process <b>and within the GNSO community</b>.</span>
            <o:p></o:p></li>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <li class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><i>Suggested
              change, which reverts to previous language</i>:
            <span style="color:#333333">The NomCom is seeking
              accomplished persons of integrity, objectivity, and
              intelligence with
              <b>an interest</b> in the multistakeholder policymaking
              process.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
        </ul>
        <p class="MsoListParagraph"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I have tried to highlight the difference
          between the two versions by bolding the relevant elements, and
          hope Councilors find this helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
              style="color:black">council
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org"><council-bounces@gnso.icann.org></a> on behalf of
              Stephanie E Perrin via council
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
              <b>Reply-To: </b>Stephanie E Perrin
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 10:02 AM<br>
              <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">"council@gnso.icann.org"</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b>NCSG PC <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is"><ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Supporting Document for
              November Council Meeting Agenda Item 4: Revised GNSO
              Councilor Job Description for the Nominating Committee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <p>Thanks for your hard work on this job description.  NCSG has
          had a brief discussion on this topic, and believes that we
          have taken a slight wrong turn in some of the revisions.  We
          believe that it is important for Nomcom to seek fresh eyes and
          talent for the Nomcom representatives on Council.  The job
          description should therefore not insist, as this new version
          does, on the importance of experience.  Understanding of the
          role of the GNSO, certainly, but experience in the ICANN MS
          model and its structures is certainly NOT necessary or even
          desireable.  WE want fresh eyes, different experience and
          ideas that can help us improve. 
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>There is obviously an issue if former Councillors start to
          apply for a Nomcom seat on Council when their terms are up, in
          terms of upsetting the balance of stakeholder
          group/constituency representation.  We are not looking for a
          prohibition of Councillors coming back as Nomcom, just to
          remove the emphasis on previous GNSO/ICANN experience.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>I hope that I have expressed the views of my SG adequately in
          these comments and the attached markup, and suggest we have a
          thorough discussion of this topic in our meeting this week.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Stephanie Perrin<o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 2021-11-15 8:00 p.m., Steve Chan via
            council wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear
              Councilors,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On behalf
              of the small team (Flip Petillion, Mark Datysgeld, Maxim
              Alzoba, Olga Cavalli, and Tomslin Samme-Nlar) that worked
              on the revised NomCom job description, please find their
              proposed final draft attached in both redline and clean.
              This version attempts to take into account the initial
              edits proposed initially by the previous Council
              leadership team, discussion both on list and during the
              previous Council call, as well as subsequent email
              dialogue amongst the small team. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Steve</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Steven
                Chan</span></b><b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS
                Gothic"">
</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Senior
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              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Find out more about
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              style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Transcripts and
              recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are
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