<div dir="auto"><div>Thank you again everyone for the comments, edits and discussion. It is 20:00 on 30th April now my time. So I have to either submit it before I go to bed or first thing in the morning. However, if there are no more comments to the draft, I'll prefer submitting it before I go to bed.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Cheers,<br>Tomslin<br> </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue., 30 Mar. 2021, 10:46 Stephanie E Perrin, <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ok I have added bits as requested....I did not accept your rejection of <br>
the premise that the accreditation body cost estimate may be low. This <br>
is not based on my opinions alone, it is is based on all the work done <br>
in private by the EWG....we looked at the possible options for <br>
accreditation of entities, and it was considered by all to be a <br>
nightmare and potentially expensive. I also worked on this, including <br>
with respect to cross border data sharing in my capacity of DG Risk <br>
Management when I was at Service Canada....managing credentials for <br>
users of a global system is extremely expensive. I used the term "may" <br>
so we are not making a fact assertion, but I will be stunned if they can <br>
do this for that kind of budget. Remember that permitting the wrong <br>
users eg criminals into the system would be the cause of a major data <br>
breach, which comes with big $$$ penalties. If there are no further <br>
comments I will go in , accept your additions, and turn it over to <br>
Tomslin to submit. (what day is it for you Tomslin? ) we have approx <br>
24 hours to the deadline.<br>
<br>
cheers and thanks for the comments Milton! I don't necessarily agree <br>
with totally downpedalling the cost issues but am willing to compromise <br>
on it, we have signalled strongly that this is a new payer and you left <br>
that in.<br>
<br>
Steph<br>
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On 2021-03-29 2:25 p.m., Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
> Stephanie:<br>
> Really appreciate the work involved in the first draft.<br>
> I am commenting on the doc and I want to alert everyone in NCSG that I think it is a major strategic error for our comments to reinforce the IPC/BC's attacks on the financial viability of the SSAD. The SSAD is viable if the users (e.g., Facebook, Markmonitor, etc) pay for it. When the surveillance caucus says it is too costly they are just angling for free access and our having registrars and registrants pay for it. When you reinforce the false argument that this will be too expensive, you are advancing their agenda. Not deliberately, of course, but you seem to be unaware of how your argument shoots us in the foot.<br>
><br>
> During the negotiations over the SSAD, NCSG's position was that users pay for their own accreditation costs, and that usage of the system should be tiered to differentiate between light and heavy users. Also, the existence of an SSAD helps us argue for keeping the private data redacted.<br>
><br>
> So I have suggested various changes and deletions in the comments to reflect this perspective.<br>
><br>
> --MM<br>
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> Here is the link to the draft comment<br>
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> cheers Stephanie Perrin<br>
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