<div dir="auto">I agree with you Farell.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The document is beautiful and clearly put forward what and gives process understanding. However, we need to look for ways in which the document can be easily implemented without it becoming  a burden. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Whatever we might agreed to do must center on building commitment and trust.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 29 Dec. 2020, 2:41 pm Farell FOLLY, <<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org">farell@benin2point0.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Tomslin,<div><br></div><div>That is a brilliant idea. I think that if there are substantial inputs in the current document (where inputs for improvements are requested) we could add them directly to the the procedures documents where it would be useful, so that it becomes de facto part of it; and vice versa. I have provided some inputs into the document some years ago, and I think we are still stuck at the same place. The procedures are quite simple and should remain so, however, how we effectively and efficiently implement should be our most important concern. Let’s first adopt and publish it, then hen discuss implementation steps.<br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 28 Dec 2020, at 22:00, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="auto">Hi PC,<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't want to derail the work and intention of the paper Farell is working on but wanted to ask  what you (former PC members) think and bring to the attention (of new PC members) this procedures proposal that was worked on by the previous PC but not yet adopted. The document can be found here <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_M4wBGVEyXm30m79olplfF0RNkJnDwaVBBeldDfO8U/edit?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_M4wBGVEyXm30m79olplfF0RNkJnDwaVBBeldDfO8U/edit?usp=drivesdk</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think the procedures proposed in the document will contribute to improving the PC,  efficiency and also formalize how the PC works. It has procedures and work processes of the PC, public comments, issuing of group statements and PC leadership. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">While the proposal focuses on the PC itself rather than general membership engagement, I believe we need to strengthen the PC just as much as we need to find ways to encourage more NCSG members to participate in policy development activities.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It would be great if we could continue working on this proposal and formally adopt some or all of it. Let me know your thoughts please.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Cheers,<br>Tomslin<br>    </div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon., 28 Dec. 2020, 19:54 Farell FOLLY, <<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farell@benin2point0.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>I hope you are all doing well. This is gentle reminder to comment on the document for improvements about our policy-related activities. I already saw some interesting inputs.</div><div><br></div><div>Season’s greetings. Stay safe!</div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 16 Dec 2020, at 19:14, Farell FOLLY <<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">farell@benin2point0.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Following our recent policy meeting held on 14th of December, I would like to share with you the following <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLRUXMoLMPQrqF0rQdk3lnD7ZfKpDJS7-ED5G1IXMps/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">document</a> where you can put your thoughts and suggestions on the matter named in this e-mail’s subject. There is a brief notice at the beginning of the document that explains the purpose and what is expected.</div><div><br></div><div>In sum:</div><div><br></div><div>—>  given the very low and decreasing engagement of our membership, I was suggesting during the meeting that we should improve some of the ways we engage with them (members)  for policy-related tasks, especially for public comments drafting, documents archiving and materials sharing. This document gives the opportunity to all PC members to opine on this matter.</div><div><br></div><div>—> Currently, most of the recurrent routines of the Policy Committee is to share information from other ICANN stakeholders to the members, leading and coordinate the drafting of public comments, liaise with and follow the WG PDPs, just to name a few. </div><div><br></div><div>—> Therefore, a minimalistic list of areas of improvements could be: how we coordinate public comment draftings, how we share and manage information and resources.</div><div><br></div><div>Although it is not very urgent, it would be good if people react on this asap or anytime before next year so that we can collect all opinions in order to make a decision.</div><div><br></div><div>The document is available at: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLRUXMoLMPQrqF0rQdk3lnD7ZfKpDJS7-ED5G1IXMps/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLRUXMoLMPQrqF0rQdk3lnD7ZfKpDJS7-ED5G1IXMps/edit?usp=sharing</a> </div><div><br></div><div>All the best for Christmas and the season.</div><div></div><div><br></div><div>
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