<div dir="ltr">I'd prefer nominating a living candidate. It seems more useful. I think posthumous awards should be in their own category or made exceptional/additional.<div><br></div><div>-Raoul</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 10:18, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>Thanks for the support David! I really miss Don, he was a mensch
and really did demonstrate the MS spirit! well said. I also
really really think it is time to recognize Joly as well, he works
tirelessly for us!</p>
<p>Steph<br>
</p>
<div>On 2020-03-24 11:42 p.m., David Cake
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
I would strongly support the nomination of Don Blumenthal. Someone
who truly embodied the multistakeholder spirit, actively
participating in ways that went well beyond simply representing
his constituency.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I also think it is in the spirit of the award for
groups to nominate someone who is not one of their own
advocates. <br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And the realistic truth is that the deceased are
most likely to be successful within a year of their passing.
Now is the time. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you for the suggestion, Stephanie. <br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David<br>
<div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>On 25 Mar 2020, at 7:49 am, Kathy Kleiman
<<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div>
<div>I would certainly support Joly or Don
Blumenthal. Don, for those who didn't know him,
was a former law enforcement/regulator who
believed passionately in the rule of law and civil
liberties/human rights. He was exactly who we
want as a law enforcement/cybersecurity leader --
and he was a member of SSAC at the end of his
life. He passed away in the Fall.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Joly is a great nominee too! <br>
</div>
<div>Best, Kathy<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">To:</div>
"Stephanie E Perrin" <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>><br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</div>
"ncsg-pc" <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>>,
"NCSG EC" <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@listsncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@listsncsg.is</a>>,
"Kathy Kleiman" <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>><br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</div>
Tue, 24 Mar 2020 22:48:55 +0000<br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</div>
Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN Excellence award -
IPC will nominate Jeff Neuman<br>
<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I would totally
support a Joly nomination. Also I agree with
Kathy we do not need to support the other
candidate given some of the positions they
have taken in the past.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">best regards</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Dorothy</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar
24, 2020 at 5:26 PM Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p>Personally I would rather we
nominate someone, like Joly or Don
Blumenthal.<br>
</p>
<div>On 2020-03-24 10:10 a.m.,
Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<p>While we can't block this
nomination, I would strongly recommend
not joining it. Jeff Neuman may win,
but he does not need our help or
endorsement.</p>
<p>Jeff is an unapologetic
support of New gTLD registries and
overexpansion of intellectual property
rights. He was a huge supporter of the
private Public Interest Commitments --
the creator of the term "Walled Gardens"
for a registry world in which
registrants have no rights. He has
fought, as co-chair, for registry rights
to be embedded in the New gTLD applicant
guidebook, and these now are <br>
</p>
<p>I appreciate his many years of
chairing of a PDP WG, but he's not alone
-- I've done that, Phil Corwin has done
that, others too. He has not been
particularly fair or neutral -- until
complaints were made and he changed
slowly. <br>
</p>
<p>We don't need to support this
nomination. We can applaud politely
when he wins.</p>
<p>Best, Kathy</p>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote><br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
<div style="width:100%;background:rgb(228,228,228)">
<div style="font-weight:bold">From:</div>
"Stephanie Perrin" <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a></div>
<br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">To:</div>
"NCSG PC" <a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank"><ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is></a>,
"NCSG EC" <a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank"><ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is></a><br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</div>
<br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</div>
Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:49:11 +0000<br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</div>
[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN Excellence
award - IPC will nominate Jeff Neuman<br>
<br>
<br>
<p>Folks ,could we get a 48
hour turnaround on a decision on this
matter? My apologies for the delay in
acting, I have been preoccupied with
the virus.</p>
<p>cheers Steph<br>
</p>
<div><br>
<br>
-------- Forwarded Message --------
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th valign="baseline" align="right">Subject: </th>
<td>Fwd: ICANN
Excellence award - IPC will
nominate Jeff Neuman</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th valign="baseline" align="right">Date: </th>
<td>Tue, 24 Mar 2020
16:16:41 +1100</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th valign="baseline" align="right">From: </th>
<td>Heather Forrest <a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<haforrestesq@gmail.com></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th valign="baseline" align="right">To: </th>
<td>Stephanie Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">
<stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>,
Bruna Martins dos Santos <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>,
Joan Kerr <a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank">
<joankerr@fbsc.org></a>,
Carlos Raul <a href="mailto:carlosraulg@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<carlosraulg@gmail.com></a></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Dear NCSG
colleagues,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry to throw this
into your inboxes when we're all
fighting the madness, but the
deadline is rapidly approaching to
nominate Jeff for the (formerly
called) "Ethos Award". The IPC had
decided back in February to
nominate him, and now RySG is keen
to join on, and perhaps RrSG also.
With this momentum going, I was
hoping it might be across the
board for the GNSO.</div>
<div><br>
Would the NCSG like to join?
Nomination attached, which I will
need to submit to the online
application form by Friday.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Very best wishes to
you all, hope you're keeping safe
and sane,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Heather Forrest</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">----------
Forwarded message ---------<br>
From: <strong class="gmail_sendername">Heather
Forrest</strong> <span> <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:09
PM<br>
Subject: Re: ICANN Excellence
award - IPC will nominate Jeff
Neuman<br>
To: Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">
<DonnaAustin@team.neustar></a><br>
Cc: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>,
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>,
Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudiaselli@intl.att.com" target="_blank">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>,
Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,
Graeme Bunton <<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com" target="_blank">gbunton@tucows.com</a>><br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks
very much to Graeme, Wolf-Ulrich
and Donna for your responses.
Here's where I understand the
situation (correct me if I'm
wrong):
<div>
<ul>
<li>RySG supports
joint nomination</li>
<li>Graeme to
confirm whether RrSG
supports joint nomination</li>
<li>ISPCP will not
join joint nomination, but
members may choose to
nominate him individually.</li>
<li>BC and NCSG -
no response as yet
(understandable, when
we're all flat out dealing
with pandemic
arrangements),so I'll poke
you again one more time
tomorrow after the IPC
meeting if I don't hear
back between now and then.</li>
<li>Nomination
draft revised to
incorporate the excellent
suggestions from ISPCP - I
have highlighted major
changes in yellow - as
attached.</li>
</ul>
<div>Best wishes to
all, be healthy,</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Heather</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar
24, 2020 at 1:56 PM Austin,
Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">
<Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="en-us">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I agree with
Wolf-Ulrich that the
inclusion of
additional aspects of
Jeff’s long standing
participation in the
community would likely
improve his chances.</span></p>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><br>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I can confirm
that the RySG is
willing to support the
IPC in its nomination
of Jeff.</span></p>
<div><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><br>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
[mailto:<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Tuesday, March 24,
2020 7:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b>
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
<<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>;
Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>;
Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>;
Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>;
Graeme Bunton <<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com" target="_blank">gbunton@tucows.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: ICANN Excellence
award - IPC will
nominate Jeff Neuman</span></p>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
Heather,</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've
brought your
suggestion to the
attention of our
constituency at our
call today. Those
participating in the
conversation
expressed their
agreement to Jeff
being nominated.
Finally we decided
to leave it up to
the members to file
support personally
before the 27th.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We
also discussed the
rationale for the
nomination. It may
help to improve the
chances for Jeff if
additional aspects
of his long lasting
ICANN engagement
could be
appreciated: eg
Vicechair term on
GNSO Council, chair
of the WG who
drafted the GNSO PDP
(Annex A to the
Bylaws) and the
related Manual in
the GNSO Procedures
where he has shown
outstanding
capability of
cooperation.</p>
</div>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best
regards</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wolf-Ulrich</p>
</div>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am
Fr., 20. März 2020
um 23:34 Uhr schrieb
Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear
Donna, Graeme,
Wolf-Ulrich,
Claudia,
Stephanie,</p>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
hope this
message finds
you all well and
out of harm's
way.</p>
</div>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
should have
thought of this
sooner but...
better late than
never. The IPC
proposed in its
February meeting
(now over a
month ago, but
Cancun madness
intervened) to
nominate Jeff
for the formerly
ICANN Ethos
Award, now
Community
Excellence
Award. We have
the attached
nomination in
draft form, and
I had intended
to submit it
after next
Wednesay's IPC
membership
meeting. I
understand that
RySG has also
been discussing
nominating Jeff,
and so the
thought arose to
circulate our
draft and ask if
perhaps this
isn't one of
those rare
moments in
history for an
all-GNSO action?
Or at least to
ask if there are
other SG/Cs who
would be
interested in
signing on. </p>
</div>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The
deadline is next
week, the 27th,
so we need to
keep an eye on
time. </p>
</div>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best
wishes to all,</p>
</div>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Heather</p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
</p>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- </p>
<div>
<div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Wolf-Ulrich Knoben</span></i></b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Am Steinringer Berg 19</span></i></b></p>
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