<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I would strongly support the nomination of Don Blumenthal. Someone who truly embodied the multistakeholder spirit, actively participating in ways that went well beyond simply representing his constituency. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I also think it is in the spirit of the award for groups to nominate someone who is not one of their own advocates. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And the realistic truth is that the deceased are most likely to be successful within a year of their passing. Now is the time. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for the suggestion, Stephanie. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 Mar 2020, at 7:49 am, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" class="">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" class=""><div class="">I would certainly support Joly or Don Blumenthal.  Don, for those who didn't know him, was a former law enforcement/regulator who believed passionately in the rule of law and civil liberties/human rights.  He was exactly who we want as a law enforcement/cybersecurity leader -- and he was a member of SSAC at the end of his life. He passed away in the Fall.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Joly is a great nominee too!  <br class=""></div><div class="">Best, Kathy<br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----<br class=""><div style="width:100%;background:rgb(228,228,228);" class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">From:</div> "dorothy g" <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" class="">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>></div><br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">To:</div>"Stephanie E Perrin" <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" class="">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>><br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Cc:</div>"ncsg-pc" <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" class="">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>>, "NCSG EC" <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@listsncsg.is" class="">ncsg-ec@listsncsg.is</a>>, "Kathy Kleiman" <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" class="">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>><br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Sent:</div>Tue, 24 Mar 2020 22:48:55 +0000<br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Subject:</div>Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN Excellence award - IPC will nominate Jeff Neuman<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">I would totally support a Joly nomination.  Also I agree with Kathy we do not need to support the other candidate given some of the positions they have taken in the past.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">best regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">Dorothy</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:26 PM Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" class="">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
  
    
  
  <div class=""><p class="">Personally I would rather we nominate someone, like Joly or Don
      Blumenthal.<br class=""></p>
    <div class="">On 2020-03-24 10:10 a.m., Kathy Kleiman
      wrote:<br class=""></div>
    <blockquote class=""><p class="">While we can't block this nomination, I would strongly
        recommend not joining it.  Jeff Neuman may win, but he does not
        need our help or endorsement.</p><p class="">Jeff is an unapologetic support of New gTLD registries and
        overexpansion of intellectual property rights. He was a huge
        supporter of the private Public Interest Commitments -- the
        creator of the term "Walled Gardens" for a registry world in
        which registrants have no rights. He has fought, as co-chair,
        for registry rights to be embedded in the New gTLD applicant
        guidebook, and these now are  <br class=""></p><p class="">I appreciate his many years of chairing of a PDP WG, but he's
        not alone -- I've done that, Phil Corwin has done that, others
        too. He has not been particularly fair or neutral -- until
        complaints were made and he changed slowly. <br class=""></p><p class="">We don't need to support this nomination.  We can applaud
        politely when he wins.</p><p class="">Best, Kathy</p>
       <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class=""><br class="">
        ----- Original Message -----<br class=""><div style="width:100%;background:rgb(228,228,228);" class="">
          <div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">From:</div>
          "Stephanie Perrin" <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class=""><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a></div>
        <br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">To:</div>
        "NCSG PC" <a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" class=""><ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is></a>, "NCSG EC"
        <a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" class=""><ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is></a><br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Cc:</div>
        <br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Sent:</div>
        Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:49:11 +0000<br class=""><div style="font-weight:bold;" class="">Subject:</div>
        [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN Excellence award - IPC will nominate
        Jeff Neuman<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><p class="">Folks ,could we get a 48 hour turnaround on a decision on
          this matter?  My apologies for the delay in acting, I have
          been preoccupied with the virus.</p><p class="">cheers Steph<br class=""></p>
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          -------- Forwarded Message --------
          <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" class=""><tbody class=""><tr class=""><th valign="baseline" align="right" class="">Subject: </th>
                <td class="">Fwd: ICANN Excellence award - IPC will nominate Jeff
                  Neuman</td>
              </tr><tr class=""><th valign="baseline" align="right" class="">Date: </th>
                <td class="">Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:16:41 +1100</td>
              </tr><tr class=""><th valign="baseline" align="right" class="">From: </th>
                <td class="">Heather Forrest <a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" class="">
                    <haforrestesq@gmail.com></a></td>
              </tr><tr class=""><th valign="baseline" align="right" class="">To: </th>
                <td class="">Stephanie Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">
                    <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>, Bruna
                  Martins dos Santos <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" class="">
                    <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>, Joan Kerr <a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" class="">
                    <joankerr@fbsc.org></a>, Carlos Raul <a href="mailto:carlosraulg@gmail.com" class="">
                    <carlosraulg@gmail.com></a></td>
              </tr></tbody></table><br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear NCSG colleagues,
            <div class=""><br class=""></div>
            <div class="">Sorry to throw this into your inboxes when we're all
              fighting the madness, but the deadline is rapidly
              approaching to nominate Jeff for the (formerly called)
              "Ethos Award". The IPC had decided back in February to
              nominate him, and now RySG is keen to join on, and perhaps
              RrSG also. With this momentum going, I was hoping it might
              be across the board for the GNSO.</div>
            <div class=""><br class="">
              Would the NCSG like to join? Nomination attached, which I
              will need to submit to the online application form by
              Friday.</div>
            <div class=""><br class=""></div>
            <div class="">Very best wishes to you all, hope you're keeping safe
              and sane,</div>
            <div class=""><br class=""></div>
            <div class="">Heather Forrest</div>
            <br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">
              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded
                message ---------<br class="">
                From: <strong class="gmail_sendername">Heather Forrest</strong>
                <span class="">
                  <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" class="">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>></span><br class="">
                Date: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:09 PM<br class="">
                Subject: Re: ICANN Excellence award - IPC will nominate
                Jeff Neuman<br class="">
                To: Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" class="">
                  <DonnaAustin@team.neustar></a><br class="">
                Cc: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" class="">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>,
                Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" class="">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>,
                Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudiaselli@intl.att.com" class="">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>,
                Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,
                Graeme Bunton <<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com" class="">gbunton@tucows.com</a>><br class=""></div>
              <br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks very much to Graeme, Wolf-Ulrich and
                Donna for your responses. Here's where I understand the
                situation (correct me if I'm wrong):
                <div class="">
                  <ul class=""><li class="">RySG supports joint nomination</li>
                    <li class="">Graeme to confirm whether RrSG supports joint
                      nomination</li>
                    <li class="">ISPCP will not join joint nomination, but
                      members may choose to nominate him individually.</li>
                    <li class="">BC and NCSG - no response as yet
                      (understandable, when we're all flat out dealing
                      with pandemic arrangements),so I'll poke you again
                      one more time tomorrow after the IPC meeting if I
                      don't hear back between now and then.</li>
                    <li class="">Nomination draft revised to incorporate the
                      excellent suggestions from ISPCP - I have
                      highlighted major changes in yellow - as attached.</li>
                  </ul><div class="">Best wishes to all, be healthy,</div>
                </div>
                <div class=""><br class=""></div>
                <div class="">Heather</div>
              </div>
              <br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020
                  at 1:56 PM Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" class="">
                    <Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a> wrote:<br class=""></div>
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                  <div lang="en-us" xml:lang="en-us" class="">
                    <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);" class="">I agree with
                          Wolf-Ulrich that the inclusion of additional
                          aspects of Jeff’s long standing participation
                          in the community would likely improve his
                          chances.</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);" class="">I can
                          confirm that the RySG is willing to support
                          the IPC in its nomination of Jeff.</span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben [mailto:<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" class="">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>]
                          <br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:57 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" class="">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" class="">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>;
                          Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" class="">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>;
                          Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>;
                          Austin, Donna
                          <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" class=""><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>;
                          Graeme Bunton <<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com" class="">gbunton@tucows.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: ICANN Excellence award -
                          IPC will nominate Jeff Neuman</span></p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
                      <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Heather,</p>
                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I've brought your
                            suggestion to the attention of our
                            constituency at our call today. Those
                            participating in the conversation expressed
                            their agreement to Jeff being nominated.
                            Finally we decided to leave it up to the
                            members to file support personally before
                            the 27th.</p>
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                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">We also discussed the
                            rationale for the nomination. It may help to
                            improve the chances for Jeff if additional
                            aspects of his long lasting ICANN engagement
                            could be appreciated: eg Vicechair term on
                            GNSO Council, chair of the WG who drafted
                            the GNSO PDP (Annex A to the Bylaws) and the
                            related Manual in the GNSO Procedures where
                            he has shown outstanding capability of
                            cooperation.</p>
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                        <div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards</p>
                        </div>
                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Wolf-Ulrich</p>
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                      <div class="">
                        <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Am Fr., 20. März 2020 um
                            23:34 Uhr schrieb Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" class="">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>:</p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Donna, Graeme,
                              Wolf-Ulrich, Claudia, Stephanie,</p>
                            <div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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                            <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I hope this message
                                finds you all well and out of harm's
                                way.</p>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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                            <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I should have thought
                                of this sooner but... better late than
                                never. The IPC proposed in its February
                                meeting (now over a month ago, but
                                Cancun madness intervened) to nominate
                                Jeff for the formerly ICANN Ethos Award,
                                now Community Excellence Award. We have
                                the attached nomination in draft form,
                                and I had intended to submit it after
                                next Wednesay's IPC membership meeting.
                                I understand that RySG has also been
                                discussing nominating Jeff, and so the
                                thought arose to circulate our draft and
                                ask if perhaps this isn't one of those
                                rare moments in history for an all-GNSO
                                action? Or at least to ask if there are
                                other SG/Cs who would be interested in
                                signing on. </p>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The deadline is next
                                week, the 27th, so we need to keep an
                                eye on time. </p>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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                            <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes to all,</p>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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                            <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Heather</p>
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                      </div><p class="MsoNormal">-- </p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size:7.5pt;" class="">Wolf-Ulrich
                                    Knoben</span></i></b></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size:7.5pt;" class="">Am
                                    Steinringer Berg 19</span></i></b></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size:7.5pt;" class="">D-53639
                                    Königswinter</span></i></b></p>
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                          <div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size:7.5pt;" class="">Mob: 0151
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