<div dir="ltr">While I acknowledge Jeff's leadership in the Subpro, I would agree with Kathy that if thats the pre-requisite we should also nominate previous chairs for this position and so on. <br><br>On the other hand, I would absolutely support Joly for this award. Adding to the list, I would say that any of us whos been part of the EPDP would also be deserving of such award in the recent past. <div><br></div><div>Hope everyone is safe ;) <br><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 24 mars 2020 à 17:37, Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I agree on nominating someone else than anyone on IPC..<div><br></div><div>-Raoul</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 13:26, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Personally I would rather we nominate someone, like Joly or Don
Blumenthal.<br>
</p>
<div>On 2020-03-24 10:10 a.m., Kathy Kleiman
wrote:<br>
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<p>While we can't block this nomination, I would strongly
recommend not joining it. Jeff Neuman may win, but he does not
need our help or endorsement.</p>
<p>Jeff is an unapologetic support of New gTLD registries and
overexpansion of intellectual property rights. He was a huge
supporter of the private Public Interest Commitments -- the
creator of the term "Walled Gardens" for a registry world in
which registrants have no rights. He has fought, as co-chair,
for registry rights to be embedded in the New gTLD applicant
guidebook, and these now are. <br>
</p>
<p>I appreciate his many years of chairing of a PDP WG, but he's
not alone -- I've done that, Phil Corwin has done that, others
too. He has not been particularly fair or neutral -- until
complaints were made and he changed slowly. <br>
</p>
<p>We don't need to support this nomination. We can applaud
politely when he wins.</p>
<p>Best, Kathy</p>
<br>
<br>
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<div style="font-weight:bold">From:</div>
"Stephanie Perrin" <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a></div>
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<div style="font-weight:bold">To:</div>
"NCSG PC" <a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank"><ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is></a>, "NCSG EC"
<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank"><ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is></a><br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</div>
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<div style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</div>
Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:49:11 +0000<br>
<div style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</div>
[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN Excellence award - IPC will nominate
Jeff Neuman<br>
<br>
<br>
<p>Folks ,could we get a 48 hour turnaround on a decision on
this matter? My apologies for the delay in acting, I have
been preoccupied with the virus.</p>
<p>cheers Steph<br>
</p>
<div><br>
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<td>Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:16:41 +1100</td>
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<th valign="baseline" align="right">From: </th>
<td>Heather Forrest <a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<haforrestesq@gmail.com></a></td>
</tr>
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<th valign="baseline" align="right">To: </th>
<td>Stephanie Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">
<stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>, Bruna
Martins dos Santos <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>, Joan Kerr <a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank">
<joankerr@fbsc.org></a>, Carlos Raul <a href="mailto:carlosraulg@gmail.com" target="_blank">
<carlosraulg@gmail.com></a></td>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear NCSG colleagues,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sorry to throw this into your inboxes when we're all
fighting the madness, but the deadline is rapidly
approaching to nominate Jeff for the (formerly called)
"Ethos Award". The IPC had decided back in February to
nominate him, and now RySG is keen to join on, and perhaps
RrSG also. With this momentum going, I was hoping it might
be across the board for the GNSO.</div>
<div><br>
Would the NCSG like to join? Nomination attached, which I
will need to submit to the online application form by
Friday.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Very best wishes to you all, hope you're keeping safe
and sane,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Heather Forrest</div>
<br>
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From: <strong class="gmail_sendername">Heather Forrest</strong>
<span>
<<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:09 PM<br>
Subject: Re: ICANN Excellence award - IPC will nominate
Jeff Neuman<br>
To: Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">
<DonnaAustin@team.neustar></a><br>
Cc: Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>,
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>,
Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudiaselli@intl.att.com" target="_blank">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>,
Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,
Graeme Bunton <<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com" target="_blank">gbunton@tucows.com</a>><br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks very much to Graeme, Wolf-Ulrich and
Donna for your responses. Here's where I understand the
situation (correct me if I'm wrong):
<div>
<ul>
<li>RySG supports joint nomination</li>
<li>Graeme to confirm whether RrSG supports joint
nomination</li>
<li>ISPCP will not join joint nomination, but
members may choose to nominate him individually.</li>
<li>BC and NCSG - no response as yet
(understandable, when we're all flat out dealing
with pandemic arrangements),so I'll poke you again
one more time tomorrow after the IPC meeting if I
don't hear back between now and then.</li>
<li>Nomination draft revised to incorporate the
excellent suggestions from ISPCP - I have
highlighted major changes in yellow - as attached.</li>
</ul>
<div>Best wishes to all, be healthy,</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Heather</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020
at 1:56 PM Austin, Donna <a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">
<Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I agree with
Wolf-Ulrich that the inclusion of additional
aspects of Jeff’s long standing participation
in the community would likely improve his
chances.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I can
confirm that the RySG is willing to support
the IPC in its nomination of Jeff.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben [mailto:<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>>;
Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>;
Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>;
Austin, Donna
<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>;
Graeme Bunton <<a href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com" target="_blank">gbunton@tucows.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: ICANN Excellence award -
IPC will nominate Jeff Neuman</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Heather,</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've brought your
suggestion to the attention of our
constituency at our call today. Those
participating in the conversation expressed
their agreement to Jeff being nominated.
Finally we decided to leave it up to the
members to file support personally before
the 27th.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We also discussed the
rationale for the nomination. It may help to
improve the chances for Jeff if additional
aspects of his long lasting ICANN engagement
could be appreciated: eg Vicechair term on
GNSO Council, chair of the WG who drafted
the GNSO PDP (Annex A to the Bylaws) and the
related Manual in the GNSO Procedures where
he has shown outstanding capability of
cooperation.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wolf-Ulrich</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am Fr., 20. März 2020 um
23:34 Uhr schrieb Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>:</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Donna, Graeme,
Wolf-Ulrich, Claudia, Stephanie,</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I hope this message
finds you all well and out of harm's
way.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I should have thought
of this sooner but... better late than
never. The IPC proposed in its February
meeting (now over a month ago, but
Cancun madness intervened) to nominate
Jeff for the formerly ICANN Ethos Award,
now Community Excellence Award. We have
the attached nomination in draft form,
and I had intended to submit it after
next Wednesay's IPC membership meeting.
I understand that RySG has also been
discussing nominating Jeff, and so the
thought arose to circulate our draft and
ask if perhaps this isn't one of those
rare moments in history for an all-GNSO
action? Or at least to ask if there are
other SG/Cs who would be interested in
signing on. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The deadline is next
week, the 27th, so we need to keep an
eye on time. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes to all,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Heather</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Wolf-Ulrich
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