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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">That makes sense to me. I am afraid that our comment does not exactly convey our substantive concerns yet, or at least I cannot follow the logic. I don't see this as an opportunity to be expansive about the MS
mandate (i.e. like a manifesto) I see it as a forum for making concrete, actionable suggestions with evidence of problems well described.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers SP</font></font><br>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>thanks for the edits.</div>
<div>I tried to clean-up the document and remove the unnecessary parts. it is getting shape but I am not sure that is ready since some items on list have no comments. They need to be filled.</div>
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<div>Reading Stephanie email about inviting Brian to NCSG session, I was wondering about :</div>
<div>- reach staff about the comment , we will be late even after the deadline extension, checking when they are planning to issue the summary report. Depending of the date, we might have a "grace period" or not.</div>
<div>- using the comment to channel our concerns directly to Brian during NCSG session in Marrakech and follow-up after in written form depending if we can make it for the public comment. I think our focus should be the substance , complaining about the process
initiated by board to Brian doesn't make sense IMHO since he was hired to do the work (and not responsible for starting this)</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 14 juin 2019 à 22:35, Tatiana Tropina <<a href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">tatiana.tropina@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="auto">I am now in transit and will try work on this in this evening or tomorrow.</div>
<div dir="auto">Cheers, </div>
<div dir="auto">Tanya </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri 14. Jun 2019 at 15:25, Elsa S <<a href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I reviewed quickly but I’ll have to review it meticulously after checking in with you folks. Generally, this looks like a human rights report, not a public comment. I’m not sure if we should change the whole format or keep it the way it is?
(I am aware we don’t have much time anymore - but if someone else is willing to work on it with me, I’d be happy to do it).</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:52 AM Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>thanks Stephanie, yes everyone should jump in to tidy-up and resolve issues in the draft.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 14 juin 2019 à 09:56, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> a écrit :<br>
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Grande">I am trying to edit this, but it needs extensive revision in my view. Not clear where the tangents we are going off on are coming from....</font></font></p>
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Grande">Please tune in folks. This is important.</font></font></p>
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<div>this is an urgent task for NCSG PC to review and prepare this draft for submission. we are already late and we should make it by this week as it is critical public comment.</div>
<div>tidying-up the document and proof-reading are needed.</div>
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Date: mer. 12 juin 2019 à 18:19<br>
Subject: [Urgent] NCSG Comment on Evolving ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">please find for review and comment the NCSG submission on Evolving ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pz4rYiUx3FDl7af_stZYfRig0rgqekbRGFAxwG748D4/edit" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pz4rYiUx3FDl7af_stZYfRig0rgqekbRGFAxwG748D4/edit</a>
, prepared by a drafting team for your consideration and review.</div>
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